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Subject: Re: [DNA] Middle Eastern ancestral markers on new Euro 1.0 test
Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 22:39:39 +0000
Actually Ray the Huns were not East Asian.
What many people fail to realize is that most East Asians separated from the rest of the early foray out of Africa with the eroution of Mount Toba in Indonesia blanketing the Indian Sub Continent with many feet of ash and effectively isolating the Y-DNA haplogroup C and D folks from the rest of humanity until relatively recent times.
Central Asians were made up largely of M45 folks whose ancestors were never anywhere near East Asia. The Huns, although shrouded in mystery, were most likely the Xiong Nu people who originated in Northern Monglia and incorporated various Indo - Persian peoples along their Silk Road pathway into the heart of Europe. It is a complete historical and genetic falicy to equate East Asians with Central Asians. To be sure there were areas of overlap however much of the mixing apparently occurred after Ghengis Khan brought haplogroup C onto the steepes of Kazakhstan in the Middle Ages. Haplogroup C is almost unknown in Europe and the only Central - East Asian mtDNA haplogroup to show up in Europe is F - but seen so far only in Croatia.
Thus after reading everything I could get my hands on in relation to the Huns, Sarmatians and so on I conclude that these peoples at the time of the apogee of the Roman Empire were largely Western Eurasians blended with some northern Mongolians (who cannot be equated to the very heterogeneous Mongloians of today), as well as Osterogoths whose ancestry had taken them from modern Sweden to the Black Sea. It would be a very great stretch to associate this group with Koreans, Chinese and Japanese as DNAPrint define East Asian.
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> Yes. The "Mongolian blue spot" occurs frequently in a certain rural
> part of Eastern France. It was on the History Channel or Discovery
> Channel--and I can't remember whether it was attributed to the Huns or
> Mongols, a military detachment of whom wound up there.
> As far as the Huns are concerned, I think your #6 may hold the answer.
> Do we really know that the Huns were, in fact, "East Asian"?
> Ray Whritenour
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