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From: Charles <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] Central Asian Versus East Asian in Autosomal Test Results--DNAPrintsampling project idea
Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 14:25:05 -0400
If you can't get DNAPrint to donate (10) DNAPrint 2.5 tests for your
Central Asian sampling project, I will contribute funds for one DNAPrint
2.5 test towards the testing of native Central Asians who have no known
to them admixture in their ancestry. Send Tony Frudakis, Chief Science
Officer, at DNAPrint an email and ask him. This Central Asian sampling
project would be beneficial to his company in the long run, either way
it turns out. I would do more too, but I am already paying for many
tests out of pocket for my various projects, including DNAPrint tests
for my PA German project.
But if others on the List would donate funds for one test we may be able
to get a very interesting amateur genetic genealogist mini-study
underway. At least it would give us some clear cut Central Asian
reference points for use in our critique of the DNAPrint 2.5 test.
> An excellent idea Charles. That has the makings of a worthwhile research project. One problem is that for our test, due to the number of markers and the type of test, we require three times more DNA than a 37 marker Y-STR test so obtaining enough DNA without direct sampling would be problematic. Doug can you get 10 Altai to provide a spit or buccal sample for me during your upcoming trip?
> The one European group that is clearly a remenant of the Hunnish invasions are the residents of the Island of Hvar in Crotia. They have a high level of Y-DNA haplogroup Q and mtDNA F. It just so happens that Jim has two persons working with him in Edinburgh who come from that location. I will speak to Jim about doing the DNAPrint test on these two in the hopes of finding a clear answer. We should also have two Scottish controls tested as there should be zero "East Asian" (or whatever the DNAPrint test is actually measuring) in either. Since this could get a bit pricy (I have already paid for DNA testing of 12 of my Shetland samples and at least the same number of family members), is there anyone with a particular interest in the matter who could assist with the expenses since I don't have a grant for this work and my expenses of late have been out of sight.
> David F.
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>>In the past I believe you have mentioned that you've had some scientific
>>contacts with other researchers in Central Asia since you obtained some
>>data from there. Maybe you or your new business partner could arrange to
>>send three DNAPrint test kits in the blind to have some native Central
>>Asian people who to their knowledge have always been Central Asian with
>>no admixture in their family, etc., and have them tested as an
>>experiment and test of the DNAPrint 2.5 test. Just a suggestion. Maybe
>>if you asked Tony Frudakis he would provide the test kits at no charge
>>and/or even provide more kits for a larger sampling of some Central
>>Asians. You two working together to sample Central Asians could wind up
>>helping each other and us all.
>>Synergy at work.