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From: (David Faux)
Subject: Re: [DNA] Euro 1.0 test by AncestrybyDNA.com
Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 14:36:40 +0000


Malcolm:

In the long discourse below, set to bolster your argument, they are speaking of slaves from Poland and the Celtic world, there is not a hint in what is written that there were any Arab females in the lot. Please re-read what you have written and you will see that my assertion still stands - there is not a shred of evidence of even a single Arab woman being brought to Scandinavia during Viking times.

David F.



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> Let us return to the statement, "There is no evidence, however, that
> they
> returned with Arab wives,"
> I refer you to "A History of the Vikings" by Gwynn Jones page 261,
> Igor's son Svyatoslav had three sons, Oleg, Yaropolk and
> Vladimir."Vladimir who with the help of an army recruited in Sweden
> succeeded to all the lands of the Rus.Like other Scandinavian princes he
> had come to recognise the political and economic advantages of belonging
> to a monotheistic religion. He is not over-reliably reported to have
> taken an appraising glance at Islam, Judaism and Rome before settling on
> the faith of Byzantium.He helped the emperor Basil II put down a
> rebellion and was rewarded with the Emporer's sister in marriage - an
> honour she tried hard to avoid, partly no doubt because of the eight
> hundred concubines and slavegirls he maintained in various Rus towns."
> I refer you to page 148, "They (slaves) came in great numbers from the
> Brirish Isles, either caught in the dragnet of the Viking raids and
> invasions or as straightforward objects of commerce; they came from all
> other countries where Viking power reached; and above all they came from
> slave-hunts among the Slavonic peoples who bordered on the Baltic. The
> very name "slav" became confused with the medieval Latin sclavus.Droves
> of human cattle came to the pens of Magdeburg, ready for their transfer
> west; there was a big clearing house at Regensburg on the Danube.
> Southwards the burghers of Lyons grew fat on slaves. The demand from
> Spain and remoter Muslim world was insatiable: men and girls for labour
> and lust, eunuchs for sad service. By 850 the Swedes had opened up the
> Volga and Dneiper as slave-routes to the eastern market. And just as the
> slave-trade was essential to Viking commerce, the slave himself was the
> foundation of the Viking life at home."
> Malcolm Dodd


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