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From: "David Wilson" <>
Subject: RE: [DNA] Haplogroup Names
Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 15:50:43 -0700
In-Reply-To: <126.5e182115.2fcce02a@aol.com>


Amy, the kind of correlation list you are interested in would be very
complex.

The simplest way to look at this is probably geographical -- the root
African Y haplogroups (A,B) would usually be matched with the root African
mtDNA haplogroup L and its subclades. In North and South America, the C and
Q3 Y-haplogroups would be paired with the A,B,C,D and X mtDNA haplogroups.
In western Europe today, you find that the predominant R1b Y haplogroup is
often found in the vicinity of a clade of mtDNA haplogroup H -- but Europe
(like the middle east) is an area through which many diverse groups took a
path, and you would expect to find different Y-haplogroups side by side with
different mtDNA haplogroups.

To take a stab at the specific question you asked, you would need to know
the age of mtDNA haplogroup V and a locale. You would then need to know what
Y haplogroups were in that area at that time or later. If we are looking at
Central Europe after the last glacial maximum, your mtDNA V might be in the
vicinity of populations of R1b, possibly R1a, and a couple of the I
subclades -- not to mention possible Gs, Js or E3bs (though I think I am
getting a little adventurous with a couple of these last suggestions,
because they could be more recent entrants in to Europe). This question of
time depth in Europe for different Y haplogroups is one of the discussions
that has been going on in another thread on this list today.

Don't forget to look at this from the other side. If you had an R1b
population about 10,000 years ago, what mtDNA haplogroups would be
represented among the men's better halves? In addition to V and H
(statistically the most likely answer), you might also be looking at HV, T,
U and K.

So: no easy answer.

David Wilson



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Subject: Re: [DNA] Halpogroup Names



In a message dated 5/30/2005 5:21:05 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
writes:

I hesitate to hit "send,"
thinking that perhaps there's something else to your question that is
eluding me. Thanks,




It would be nice to see a list where you could find out what mtdna groups
were associated with what ydna groups. It's not like women are a separate
race from men. For instance what haplogroup men were V women living with
in
ancient times.

Amy McWhirter Hutton


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