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From: "Andrew and Inge" <>
Subject: RE: [DNA] Middle Eastern ancestral markers on new Euro 1.0 test
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 08:01:25 +0200
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> In any
> case, I understand your real and only point here is that majority
> in large populations take a longer time to die out than minority groups in
> small populations,

No, you are just wilfully MISunderstanding my main point. [...] It would
all be simpler if we substituted the phrase "never in a million years". I
will do so now: a majority haplotype in a large population will never in a
million years die out due to random fluctuations.

I'll leave aside all the side points and try another approach. You do not
define large/small. So how small does the population have to be, to mean
that we get a 50% chance that a Y DNA type which is in 50% of the males will
become extinct at random within say 5000 years? If you can answer in terms
of shrinking, stable and growing populations that would also be good.

Best Regards

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