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Subject: Re: [DNA] FTDNA upgrade to GenoProject
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 18:12:46 -0400

That's what I was going to guess. I haven't been SNP tested by FTDNA, but I
was not prevented from coordinating with the Genographic project on that
basis. I have dozens of 12/12 matches. I am sure one of them has been SNPd.
Mindful of Ann Turner's principle that two identical 12 marker haplotypes
have never been demonstrated to belong to two different haplogroups (Ann, I
know I am stating this a little more strongly than you did), I imagine that
is what is driving the principle of acceptance. If a potential submitter is
asked to verify a haplogroup by SNP, that just means the exact 12 markers
he shows have not previously been SNPd as a group.

David Wilson

Original Message:
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 18:00:45 EDT
Subject: Re: [DNA] FTDNA upgrade to GenoProject

Ian, I pretended t order one of my guys and it said that I had to order the
SNP, however, I just, heard from Max and he says that you only have to
the SNP if it can't be determined by an exact match in the Haplogroup

In a message dated 6/7/05 3:54:28 PM Central Daylight Time,
Julia, I can't see any blurb about the SNP requirement and it doesn't make
sense to me as they are estimating SNPs for most of the genographic cases
why would they force us to test? I would assume they are using the same
algorithm for snp-estimating in the genographic and ftdna normal test too.

Where did you read this?

Ian Kennedy

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