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From: "David M. Lawrence" <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] FTDNA upgrade to GenoProject
Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 22:47:00 -0400
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I don't think an apology is owed you or anyone else. Those deep
ancestral origins are part of your genealogy, like it or not. Your
hostility to exploring those origins is puzzling. (What are you afraid
of learning?)

The comment was in reference to people too cheap to pay $15 for the
transfer fee to the genographic project. For most of us participating
in molecular genealogy projects, it doesn't make sense to object to
shelling out an additional $15 after spending more than a hundred
dollars for the other DNA testing -- and possibly hundreds or thousands
of dollars on other types of "conventional" genealogical research --
based on cost alone.

I don't think the original post was intended to denigrate those who
choose to opt out of the genographic project for other reasons.

I suggest easing up on the attitude and indignation. Your reaction is
entirely out of proportion to whatever offense you have perceived.

Dave Lawrence

John A. Blair wrote:
> Ernie,
> I am on the list and I have no intention of paying $15.00 to upload my
> FTDNA test results to the GenoProject. Furthermore I resent your
> comment that you are "surprised they were ever involved in DNA testing,
> or genealogy either, for that matter".
> For the record the GenoProject has absolutely nothing to do with
> convnetional genealogy. It is an anthropological study.
> To quote FTDNA "The Genographic Project is going to test your sample to
> determine what migratory routes your deep ancestors followed and to
> which branch of the human family tree you belong."
> To further quote FTDNA "This test will be for the Y-DNA 12 markers for
> males and the mtDNA for females. They will address solely your deep
> ancestral origins and migratory history. If you need the test more
> markers to help with your genealogical research, you can either start
> with the Genographic Project and then request additional tests from
> Family Tree DNA, or you can order a test kit directly from Family Tree
> DNA."
> I doubt there many members of this list who are more involved in
> conventional genealogy and the use of DNA testing to suppliment
> conventional genealogy than me. I've been involved with DNA testing for
> almost 3 years and manage one the largest and most successful DNA
> Surname Projects at FTDNA.
> Just because I have no interest in anthropology (excuse me, I guess I
> should say "deep ancestral origins") doesn't mean I'm not interested in
> genealogy.
> I think you would find that the majority of the 25,000+ participants in
> the more than 1,100 surname projects underway through FTDNA are far more
> interested in their ancestry over the part several hundred years as
> opposed to going back thousands of years.
> Your attempt to shame those of us that are not interested in this
> anthropological study into joining so you can further your own interests
> is insulting.
> I think you owe all of us who are very interested in DNA and
> conventional genealogy but have no interest "deep ancestral origins" an
> apology.
> John
> -----
> John A. Blair
> Goffstown NH
> mailto:
> BLAIR DNA Project Coordinator
> At 06:58 PM 6/7/2005, you wrote:
>> If there's anyone on the list that can't afford or won't let go of
>> $15.00, I'm
>> surprised they were ever involved in DNA testing, or genealogy either,
>> for
>> that matter.
>> Ernie Hurst
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