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From: Robert Davenport <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] FTDNA upgrade to GenoProject
Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 21:46:12 -0700
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Aren't deep ancestral origins pretty clear? Didn't all humans in Europe
retreat to Spain during the Ice Age ten thousand years ago? So all
Europeans are descended from them. That's the deep story.

At 09:41 PM 6/7/2005, you wrote:
>I apologize if it sounded like I was hostile those who are interested in
>the GenoProject and their deep ancestral origins. That was certainly not
>my intention. I realize there are great many people both on and off the
>list that are very interested in both the GenoProject and their deep
>ancestral origins and I would certainly encourage those with such
>interests to pursue them to the fullest.
>As for "Those deep ancestral origins are part of your genealogy, like it
>or not", I guess I'd say that depends on how you define genealogy (a point
>I suggest we don't debate as I doubt we would ever agree). I will agree
>that my deep ancestral origins are part of who I am, but my interests are
>in conventional genealogy (the time frame of surnames) and I'm far more
>concerned with who my gr-gr-gr-gr-gr grandfather is than knowing some
>ancestor 5,000 years ago came from a region on earth (I hope) that I can't
>even pronounce. As for what I'm afraid of learning, believe me, I'm much
>more concerned about what I might turn up in researching my last 8
>generations that where I may have come from 5,000 years ago.
>Obviously you and I interpreted Ernie's remarks differently. I hope you
>are right, in which case I apologize again. But to me the implication was
>that those who don't support the GenoProject should be not involved in DNA
>testing or genealogy. I hope I'm wrong, but if I'm not, I still feel an
>apology is in order. Only Ernie knows what he meant.
>John A. Blair
>Goffstown NH
>BLAIR DNA Project Coordinator
>At 11:36 PM 6/7/2005, you wrote:
>>I don't think an apology is owed you or anyone else. Those deep
>>ancestral origins are part of your genealogy, like it or not. Your
>>hostility to exploring those origins is puzzling. (What are you afraid
>>of learning?)
>>The comment was in reference to people too cheap to pay $15 for the
>>transfer fee to the genographic project. For most of us participating in
>>molecular genealogy projects, it doesn't make sense to object to shelling
>>out an additional $15 after spending more than a hundred dollars for the
>>other DNA testing -- and possibly hundreds or thousands of dollars on
>>other types of "conventional" genealogical research -- based on cost alone.
>>I don't think the original post was intended to denigrate those who
>>choose to opt out of the genographic project for other reasons.
>>I suggest easing up on the attitude and indignation. Your reaction is
>>entirely out of proportion to whatever offense you have perceived.
>>Dave Lawrence
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