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From: Robert Davenport <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] Non-Participation in Genographic Project
Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2005 01:44:03 -0700
This message is for Bill Davenport.
They got the Blair of Blair of test.
I think our people can use this, when we try to get the Bromley Davenports
If Blair of Blair will test, then Davenport of Davenport should test !!!
At 10:21 PM 6/8/2005, you wrote:
>I'll be the first to admit I've been very lucky. Not only with my own
>research but with the Blair DNA Project as well. We have been very
>fortunate to get a known descendant of the original Blair of Blair (the
>origin of our surname) to provide his DNA to the project. So far we have
>25 participants who match the Blair of Blair on at least 23 of 25 markers.
>Unfortunately I am not one of them.
>Not all of our Blair researchers as lucky as me. We also have many
>researchers who cannot "hop the pond" and also have many who can get back
>to Ireland but not Scotland. One of the objectives of the Blair DNA
>Project was to try to connect the "Irish" Blairs back to Scotland. In many
>cases we have done just that. We have also had success in connecting the
>many of the Blairs trapped in the US to those that traced their roots back
>You are certainly right when you say that my "genealogy is pushing back
>against the limits at which written record sand confirmations begin to get
>scarce or tenuous." I may be able to get a couple of more generations
>before the paper trail runs out unless I can connect to "nobility".
>Obviously I can't be absolutely "sure that nothing from the NGS could
>possibly ever lead to something that would be a breakthrough for you at
>the back edge of genealogical time", but everything I've read of this
>project makes me very confident that it will not provide any useful
>information over the last 1,000 years, the time frame of the Blair
>surname. The project by it's own admission is to trace ancient migration
>You ask "how do you know before it's all said and done that no good reason
>will emerge from someone's analysis?" The answer is "I don't know." Based
>on the stated objectives of the project, the fact they are looking at only
>the first 12 markers, and the only genealogy information they ask for for
>is the country of origin, I can't see any way this project will assist
>those interested in convention genealogy.
>I would love to proven wrong but I don't think it will happen. I think
>that anyone who goes into this project with expectation that it will help
>further the conventional genealogical research will end up being disappointed.
>At 06:10 PM 6/8/2005, you wrote:
>>You are certainly lucky in contrast to most of my WEBB and MAYNOR DNA
>>Project participants! Very few of us can "hop the pond," so the NGS is
>>to us because if we can find a "hot spot" of 12/12 matches for our R1b, it
>>might narrow our focus for looking at that side of the pond for origins. Is
>>that "deep ancestry" or "genealogical time?" I'm not sure. I'm not sure
>>anyone can accurately assess, at this point in time, what the value
>>of joining the
>>NGS study is or isn't. I guess my final analysis is that $15 (or $30) is a
>>small price to pay to find out. Shoot! You probably blow more than that at
>>least once a year on a couple of movies tickets for a movie that turns
>>be unsatisfying, or a meal that turns out to be a less than stellar dining
>>Your genealogy is pushing back against the limits at which written records
>>and confirmations begin to get scarce or tenuous. Can you be sure that
>>nothing from the NGS could possibly ever lead to something that would be a
>>breakthrough for you at the back edge of genealogical time?
>>Some things in life are just a crap shoot, John, and uploading to the NGS
>>might be one. I guess my point is that, while I understand you
>>have a good reason to join given your objectives, how do you know before
>>it's all said and done that no good reason will emerge from
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