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Subject: RE: [DNA] Question - Haplogroup R1A1
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 20:08:34 -0400

Hi, Jim --

Welcome to the fray. The short answer is that R1a1 (or R1a, as it is often
called in discussions here) is found in a broad swathe from the Steppes
across Eastern Europe into Baltic regions and somewhat further north. So
the answer is, "Yes, it is found in both places" -- and a lot of places in
between as well.

Just to keep things in perspective, it is possible that the first male who
carried the R1a1 SNP lived 30,000 years ago, give or take 10,000 years. The
haplogroup existed for a long time before the Kurgan culture evolved that
is mentioned in the FTDNA description of R1a.

Don't let me leave you with the impression that there is no definitional
difference between R1a and R1a1. There is. But it seems to be the case that
no one has ever found an R1a haplotype that didn't also show the marker
that defines R1a1 if the researcher bothered to test for it.

Side note: you have your email program set to force replies to go to your
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and leave it blank, you should find that replies to any message you post to
the list will default to the list rather than come back to you alone.

David Wilson
Wilson Surname Project co-administrator

Original Message:
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 19:41:32 -0400
Subject: [DNA] Question - Haplogroup R1A1

This is my first post here on the list and let me start with this. I am by
no way a DNA expert so if I seem a little confused well ----- I am.
We did our yDNA testing through FTDNA and when we got the results back we
had several matches which helped somewhat but I'm still stuck at my brick
wall. That's another story.
My question is this --for the Haplogroup matches it shows it to be R1A1 for
my brother.
I have researched this Haplogroup but I find myself running in circles. One
site says this group is Nordic. FTDNA says

R1a The R1a lineage is believed to have originated in the Eurasian Steppes
north of the Black and Caspian Seas. This lineage is believed to have
originated in a population of the Kurgan culture, known for the
domestication of the horse (approximately 3000 B.C.E.). These people were
also believed to be the first speakers of the Indo-European language group.
This lineage is currently found in central and western Asia, India, and in
Slavic populations of Eastern Europe.

So in finding this is it safe to say that Haplogroup R1A1 is found in both
Could someone please explain this to me?


Best Regards,

Jim Carpenter

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