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From: "Phil Goff" <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] New subclade of 'I'?
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 00:48:36 -0500
In the Daniel Study, which I sent on this List on 6/10, the five similar
haplotypes are from Isle of Wight, VA in the early 1600s. As I noted
earlier, this result seems to be SNP-tested as "I." Here's the link again:
http://www.sorrellsgenealogy.com/dnaresultstable.html. You can see the
family history data by lopping off the URL after ".com."
----- Original Message -----
From: "Glen Todd" <>
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 12:09 AM
Subject: [DNA] New subclade of 'I'?
> I took my numbers and stuck them into Sorenson, with your original email
> beside me as a guide. Came up with some interesting things. Twelve
> entries matched all four of the locations that you identified as being
> critical to this possible new subclade. Predictably, there were no
> or better matches to me, but the top two entries were a 22/25 and a 21/25.
> Both are extremely interesting. The 22/25 is a surname Clawson that
> back to Stamford, Connecticut in 1633. I need to do some digging in
> lists, but knowing what I do of the history of that area, I would bet a
> coffee and a jelly doughnut that the immigrant ancestor Clawson came from
> England, and very likely from the Yorkshire area. 22/25 is consistent
> with an MRCA sometime slightly after the Domesday Book. The 21/25 is
> more interesting, since it's in Nord, France. The surname is Tavernier,
> which is a 'job' name meaning 'innkeeper'. This suggests to me a Norman
> connection, which is consistent with an 'I' haplogroup, since the Normans
> were basically French-speaking Vikings. 21/25 would be consistent with
> MRCA during the time that the Normans were in France.
> This is also entirely consistent with the distribution in the file that
> sent me, and matches either of the two alternative theories that I'm
> Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more.
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