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From: "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] I1a
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:23:55 -0600
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People of British Isles descent seem more interested in genealogy, and now
genetic genealogy. So the databases of American customers are heavily
slanted toward the British Isles origins. But the Anglo-Saxon haplogroup
I1a variety from NW Germany and Netherlands was brought to England in large
quantities during the invasions of 450 A.D. and thereafter. I noticed
another cultural continuity in recent weeks in a trip through AngloSaxony.
From the Netherlands all the way to the Mecklenburg/Pomerania region of
Germany along the North Sea and Baltic coasts the roofs of the farm houses
were "hip" in style in which the roof ridge did not extend from end to end
but was cut off with slanted roof sections at each end. My route stayed
fairly close to the coast. Roofs were also often thatched in these areas as

Plattdeutsch and Frisian are derivative of the Germanic language variety
which was foundation of the Germanic part of English.

My guess is that "Neyer" is straight from Germany rather than from the
British Isles.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mary Jo Neyer" <>
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Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 1:25 PM
Subject: [DNA] I1a

> Thank you, Ken, for your explanation. My husband fits the Anglo-Saxon
> model you describe, with values of 14,22 at DYS19,390. We do not have a
> value for 462. I do know we have had many matches with English lines,
> and have wondered whether this was because more people in Great Britain
> are interested in genealogy than people in Germany. We have also
> wondered if the statistics are skewed because not many families in
> Germany have chosen to be tested.
> I do know that when we visited this area of northern Germany 5 years
> ago, the shape of the roofs of houses with the design of a deer skull at
> the top of the roof over the entry way was something we saw everywhere.
> It was a design which I previously would have said was unique to
> Scandinavia. The language spoken in those parts before the control of
> the Prussians was a form of Plattdeutsch.
> Thank you. Mary Jo
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