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From: "CJMax" <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] I1a question
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 16:22:17 -0500
References: <42B1C56F.8020901@neyersoftware.com> <007b01c572a3$73021840$5a579045@Ken1> <026201c572a9$e83a1fd0$dab4b844@Annandale> <00c801c572b0$083133e0$5a579045@Ken1> <028301c572b2$068064b0$dab4b844@Annandale> <00dc01c572b8$cf2a9330$5a579045@Ken1>


Ken,

Well, FTDNA did call it I1b - thanks very much for your input. Now, I'll
just look up I1c.

I really appreciate your help.

Cliff. Johnston
"May the best you've ever seen,
Be the worst you'll ever see;"
from A Scots Toast by Robert Burns
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
To: <>
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 4:17 PM
Subject: Re: [DNA] I1a question


> It is hard to believe FTDNA called this I1b. It is rather "classic" I1c
> (now called I2 by FTDNA) with the 12,15 at DYS392, 393. All the other
> marker values are consistent with this haplogroup as well.
>
> Ken
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "CJMax" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 2:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [DNA] I1a question
>
>
>> Ken,
>>
>> Thanks for your assistance. If you don't mind, I'll post my values here.
>> Perhaps someone else will benefit from our exchange.
>>
>> DYS # Y-C Allele
>>
>> 393 15
>>
>> 390 23
>>
>> 19 15
>>
>> 391 10
>>
>> 385a 15
>>
>> 385b 17
>>
>> 426 11
>>
>> 388 13
>>
>> 439 11
>>
>> 389-1 14
>>
>> 392 12
>>
>> 389-2 32
>>
>> I have my gggrandfather documented back to Northern Ireland - Robert "Red
>> Robin" Johnston, b. 1807. He was tall at 6'-5" and had red hair. Oral
>> family history places him in Londonderry. His father - no hard
>> information - only oral family history that he was an Annandale Johnston
>> born in Scotland.
>>
>> I have ordered the 37-marker test. The results may show up around July
>> 5.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Cliff. Johnston
>> "May the best you've ever seen,
>> Be the worst you'll ever see;"
>> from A Scots Toast by Robert Burns
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
>> To: <>
>> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 3:14 PM
>> Subject: Re: [DNA] I1a question
>>
>>
>> > Cliff, Yes, I will certainly look at probable haplogroup I haplotypes.
>> > If
>> > you have a Ysearch code that would be easiest; if not just send me your
>> > STR
>> > values.
>> >
>> > I1b is not so much a pidgeon hole designation; it is just more
>> > difficult
>> > than I1a or I1c to distinquish it from possible G or J2 status if only
>> > a
>> > short set of markers are available. But most of the time one can be
>> > confident of an I1b designation, especially if it is "western I1b".
>> >
>> > Ken
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "CJMax" <>
>> > To: <>
>> > Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 1:30 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [DNA] I1a question
>> >
>> >
>> >> Ken,
>> >>
>> >> If I may jump in here and ask...
>> >>
>> >> FT guessed my haplogroup as I1b. I gather from what I've read that it
> is
>> > a
>> >> disputed "pidgeon hole" designation.
>> >>
>> >> Could you/would you take a look at my results and hazzard a guess at
>> >> to
>> > what
>> >> I might really be?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >>
>> >> Cliff. Johnston
>> >>
>> >
>> >
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