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From: "Bob New" <>
Subject: [DNA] RE: original English people (was Haplogroup F*)
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 12:15:07 +0100
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There is a reference to "Comberton" [Cambridgeshire] on p.314 of "The Age of
Arthur" by John Morris. The section sub-titled 'The Subject Welsh',
pp.312 - 316, is worth reading.

There are a couple of villages in Worcestershire, England, called Great and
Little Comberton which are just a few miles from where I was born in

Bob New
coordinator of the Surname NEW Y-DNA Testing Project

----- Original Message -----
From: "Andrew and Inge" <>
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Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 9:30 PM
Subject: RE: [DNA] RE: original English people (was Haplogroup F*)

> Sorry Ray, but I don't have any reference attached to my memory of reading
> this. It might have been Norman Davies' popular book from recent years
> called The Isles or something like that.
> I do recall that there is a town called Comberton just outside Cambridge
> that this is said to reflect what I'm talking about. I believe there are
> many Combertons in England.
> Google sounds like a reasonable starting point.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Raymond Whritenour [mailto:]
> Sent: Saturday, 25 June 2005 1:07 AM
> To:
> Subject: [DNA] RE: original English people (was Haplogroup F*)
> Andrew:
> ..............
> absolutely NO sources to back up your statements!
> How are we supposed to evaluate this information?
> Ray Whritenour
> - ------------------------------
> Andrew wrote:
> Indeed, there still seems to have been Welsh spoken, let alone Welsh
> genes, in as Anglo Saxon an area as Cambridgeshire, perhaps as late as
> the Norman invasions. Perhaps the introduction of French, making things
> a bit too complicated for practical purposes, is what finally killed off
> the language in England. - i.e. the language was killed and not the
> people. And of course the Welsh language was only a recent
> standardisation of what had presumably a far more complex situation.

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