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From: "ernest hurst" <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] Macro vs. Micro View of Genetic Genealogy
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 11:32:34 -0400

Well said! My delete key works just fine & gets a lot of use. I have, or
might have, *some* interest in all of the subjects discussed & would prefer
that I have the option to read or delete.

Ernie Hurst

> [Original Message]
> From: David M. Lawrence <>
> To: <>
> Date: 6/27/2005 11:15:33 AM
> Subject: Re: [DNA] Macro vs. Micro View of Genetic Genealogy
> It's simple. Read the messages you're interested in and ignore the
> rest. I do it all the time.
> There's no need to split the list. The only problem here are people
> insisting "my way or the highway."
> I've seen lists split by people who cannot see beyond their own nose.
> What happens is that people end up subscribing to both lists for awhile,
> getting twice the number of messages that they used to as people
> legitimately cross-post to both lists. Eventually the new list withers
> as the bombthrower who started it inevitably loses control of his
> "vision" and in turn loses interest in the list that he founded.
> I am an extrememly busy person who gets hundreds of e-mails each day. I
> take responsibility for my e-mail "workload" and trim it down as
> necessary with that magical delete button.
> Those of you who run surname studies can learn alot from the big-picture
> people, and they, in turn, can learn a lot from you. It would be a
> shame to see selfishness -- that is what it is -- destroy a wonderful
> vehicle for communication among everyone interested in the various
> aspects of genetic genealogy.
> Later,
> Dave
> Gary Rea wrote:
> > I don't know about you, but it seems evident to me that this list has
been completely taken over by those whose focus is entirely upon the very
broad-brush picture of ancestry provided by MtDNA studies, as opposed to
the reason most of us got into genetic genealogy in the first place; i.e.,
to use Y-DNA data in conjunction with our "paper trail" research to find
specific ancestors with known names. Whatever happened to that?
> >
> > Endless discussions of the technical details of haplotypes that include
half the people of Europe and endless speculations over which band of
nameless, faceless paleolithic ancestors migrated to where from where have
just left me so numb I don't even bother to read the posts on this list
anymore. How about getting back to the root purpose of surname studies;
i.e., breaking down brickwalls in conventional research and finding
connections to specific, known individuals? After you know you're an R1B
and your ancestors migrated out of Africa and across the Eurasian
continent, what else is there to know about them? Will I ever know their
names? No. Will I ever know anything about how they lived their individual
lives? Only to the extent that archaeology can provide any evidence of
specific settlements.
> >
> > Am I the only one who feels the need for a separate list for those of
us who run surname studies, or participate in them, and whose focus is upon
establishing links between ancestors who lived in historical times?
> >
> > Gary
> >
> >
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