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From: "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] Free the P38
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 13:44:20 -0600
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Mike, You meant? ----- M307 G ---> A ----- means positive for I1a?

Only P40 as far as I know indicates I1a1.


----- Original Message -----
From: <>
To: <>
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 1:37 PM
Subject: Re: [DNA] Free the P38


>
>
> Ken ...
>
> I recall that we had to goad TG a bit before they gave us the details. We
> both have "T" at P40. Here's the table they finally sent me:
>
>
> P30 A
> P40 T
> M21 A
> M72 A
>
> and the statement: "Based on the results above, you belong to I1a1, as
> described by YCC".
>
>
> And, in a separate letter:
>
> M253 T Positive for I1a1
> M307 G Negative for I1a1
>
> My understanding was/is that for M307 G --> A would be positive for I1a1
>
> Good luck to us all ....
>
> Mike ...
> ===================================================
>
> In a message dated 6/29/2005 12:14:54 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> writes:
>
> Mike, Can you look up what Trace said you were at P40? They told me "T"
> which does not agree with Hammer's paper. The two derived state "A" come
> from ancestral state "G". Am I one of those other kinds of mutations?
SNP
> mutations come in two varieties. From a letter to its natural
complement,
> or to one of the other two letters which are not considered complements.
>
> The other explanation is that Hammer's list with the two "A" SnP
mutations
> shown to occur only for the I1a haplotype are not P30 and P40. Or there
is
> misprint at Hammer's paper, or Trace misread my P40?
>
> Ken
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 12:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [DNA] Free the P38
>
>
> >
> >
> > This is very good news, tho it's unfortunate that the process is so
messy.
> >
> > Ken, did Ripan ever respond to you?
> >
> > Mike ...
> > =======================================
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 6/29/2005 10:33:51 AM Pacific Standard Time,
> > writes:
> >
> > Ken and Dennis:
> >
> > Ok, this looks like a go. Using the same ferreting procedure, Jim
has
> also
> > located P30 and P40. It seems that we will be able to offer all of
> these.
> >
> > I still don't understand why researchers should be made to go through
> hoops
> > like this. Jim had to do the same thing to finally "discover" P39.
A
> waste
> > of time as each researcher has to go trolling for SNPs and redicover
what
> > others have snagged by sheer brute force.
> >
> > (A very frustrated) David F.
>
>
>
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