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From: "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] DYS455= 8
Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2005 07:16:11 -0600
References: <000b01c57ebe$7f1f2240$5a579045@Ken1> <01aa01c57ed3$ede58b50$9101a8c0@YOURF8387228BF>


I don't know about SNP-tested haplotypes; there are not many of them so they
are close to useless in obtaining meaningful statistics about such rare
strays at 455. As I indicated, there were zero 455 = 7 I1a-like
haplotypes in all of Sorenson, but there is at least one in Ysearch --- code
NUJ3E --- which is vintge AngloSaxon I1a except for the 455 value.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Phil Goff" <>
To: <>
Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 1:01 AM
Subject: Re: [DNA] DYS455= 8


> Ken,
>
> In your post earlier this evening, you noted that "there have been
frequency
> graphs for DYS455 for over a year, both for Sorenson and Ysearch
databases,
> which show very tiny 455 = 7 and 9 population; and a few extremely strange
> haplotypes with 455 = 8." I have seen DYS455=7 in SNP-tested haplogroups
> other than I1a, not in I1a. Are you aware of any? I think we are in
> agreement that there are instances of DYS455=9 in estimated I1a. Thanks,
>
> Phil
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 11:28 PM
> Subject: [DNA] DYS455= 8
>
>
> > Lots of debate today about DYS455=8 and I1a. Some hard numbers might
> > help.
> >
> > Putting into Sorenson database the 6 most invariant marker modal repeat
> > values found in the alleged I1a population other than DYS455, I could
then
> > search for the distribution of DYS455 repeat values. Here are the
counts
> > after expunging multiple family contributions from the small populations
> > (I used 426 = 454 = 11; 438 = 10, 388 = 14, 459a,b = 8,9; YCAIIa,b =
19,21
> > and probably lost 10 percent of my DYS455 = 8 population by so
restricting
> > things; with much work I could recover those)
> >
> > DYS455 = 7 (0)
> > DYS455 = 8 (892)
> > DYS455 = 9 (4)
> > DYS455 = 10 (0)
> > DYS455 = 11 (2)
>
>
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