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From: "Sharon Bryant" <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] Fw: Western Transitional R1a
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 22:56:17 -0400
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Eric,

I chuckled over the notion you might go out and buy a rope. Keep smiling,
man. It doesn't make any difference; the only thing that counts is how you
feel.

In my project, William was said to be the son of James and James was said to
be the son of Charles. William's descendants are I1a, James and Charles'
descendants are two different varieties of R1b.

Talk about needing a rope.

Sharon
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eric Olson" <>
To: <>
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 10:13 PM
Subject: Re: [DNA] Fw: Western Transitional R1a


> Of course.
>
> Meanwhile please send good maps of the ancient Baltic Lakes and Ice Seas
> and
> other possible routes from Central Asia to Norway and Shetland, whether by
> land or by sea.
>
> While I'm waiting I might as well submit my own DNA sample to a project.
> Grandpa was Oskar Ludwig Olsson from Fryksand Parish, Varmland, Sweden;
> and
> grandma was Petra Storasen from Osen, Osterdalan, Norway, both born 1880s.
> I think I'll do the Y-DNA first.
>
> I have no idea what the haplogroup will test to be... If it's
> Nordic/Asian
> R1a with YCAIIa,b = 19,21 - I may buy a rope.
>
> Best Regards,
> Eric Olson
> Seattle
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Faux" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 6:10 PM
> Subject: Re: [DNA] Fw: Western Transitional R1a
>
>
>> Eric:
>>
>> Dr. Wilson and I will be collaborating on the project with those who have
> DNA samples from R1a Central Asian populations. We need to do requisite
> haplotype marker testing (extended) and compare to various European
> groups.
> This will take some time so don't hold your breath for the publication and
> until then or necessity all my data remains under wraps. We will never
> have
> a clear answer without proper testing of Central Asian samples - just
> imformed speculation.
>>
>> David F.
>>
>>
>>
>> -------------- Original message --------------
>>
>> > What we need is Dr. Faux's promised article.
>> >
>> > Eric
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Ken Nordtvedt"
>> > To:
>> > Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 3:35 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [DNA] Fw: Western Transitional R1a
>> >
>> >
>> > > We need a map of the extent of the Baltic as a function of era into
> the
>> > > past. With the sea level changes going on after the last glacial
> maximum,
>> > > the shallow Baltic was once a fresh lake, it once had an outlet to
>> > > the
> sea
>> > > right through southern Sweden where a canal is now, the Danish
> archipelago
>> > > was quite different, etc. So routes of peoples up into Scandinavia
> could
>> > > have gone up Jutland, or jumped the islands ...... Eventually the
> genes
>> > > will reveal the story I believe.
>> > >
>> > > >From Russia, to Ukraine, to Poland, to Germany, to Scandinavia;
>> > > >there
> is
>> > > hardly a single modal R1a, there is substantial variation. And this
> does
>> > > not even bring into the picture the R1a from further east.
>> > >
>> > > Ken
>>
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