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From: "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] Ken - Haplogroup ID
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 10:11:58 -0600
Diana, I found the unusual DYS388 = 16 populations especially within my
14,22,13,13 at DYS19,390,385a,b sub-population in my study of I1a. And your
haplotype has this unusual 13,13 at 385a,b as well. So your 15 at DYS19
seems to be a mutation from this bunch. These were from Sorenson database.
I will have to see who the 388 = 16 people are --- their pedigrees. Maybe
they are all "Matthiesen's" who have biased the database with a private
mutation? I know the Matthiesen name is in Sorenson.
Actually the DYS388= 16 also appears in abnormal quantity in the basic
14,22,13,14 sub-population as well, and a tiny bit in the 14,22,14,14
sub-population, so it is too extensive to be a private mutation and does
reflect some regional cluster. I'll try to track it down, but my guess just
from experience is probably Denmark.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Diana Gale Matthiesen" <>
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2005 9:39 AM
Subject: RE: [DNA] Ken - Haplogroup ID
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ken Nordtvedt
> > Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2005 10:12 AM
> > To:
> > Subject: Re: [DNA] Ken - Haplogroup ID
> > Since last spring when I first discovered I was in a unique
> > clade of I, FTDNA has said they only test for P19 which
> > defines all of "I", and they test for P37.2 which tests for
> > I1b. I1a is not tested for by them. Nor is I1c or anything
> > else within "I". Things are still the same there.
> Wow, have I been laboring under a misconception! My maternal
> (tested through a pair of my first cousins) came out P19, and I thought
> the end of the story (i.e., "basal" I). I didn't realize they had simply
> stopped at that point.
> > Ethnoancestry now offers both custom and total tests for
> > subclades in "I". DNA Heritage offers a partial test.
> > Seeing your haplotype would be
> > necessary to advise which way to go from here.
> My cousin's haplotype (1-12, 13-25, 26-37) is:
> 14 22 15 11 13 13 11 16 11 12 11 28
> 15 08 09 08 11 22 16 19 29 12 14 15 15
> 11 10 19 21 14 14 15 21 35 35 12 10
> Any suggestion as to what to do next, greatly appreciated.
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