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From: "Valerie Karvoski" <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] R1b in Italy
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2005 19:43:36 -0400
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Dear Ken,
Thank you, Ken. With all of the messages regarding R1b from other areas in Europe, I was beginning to think that my first project's participant's R1b was unusual. I understand that additional tests have been ordered from DNA-Fingerprint.

While the TAXIS Surname Y-DNA Project has only two participants so far, hopefully there will be more soon. We are still awaiting results for our project's other participant. Although the family spread all over Europe, this was originally an Italian family - descendants of the Torriani family who, after losing Milan to the Visconti, settled near Bergamo. Historians have the line back to 1251, near Bergamo. I have been trying to find out more information about the Torriani, but to no avail. I do not know how long they were in Milan prior to losing it to the Visconti, nor where they were prior to Milan. Hopefully, as the project progresses we will find answers to these questions.

Thanks again for the information.

Best Regards,
Valerie (von Vange) Karvoski
Project Administrator
TAXIS Surname Y-DNA Project
http://www.taxisdna.com<http://www.taxisdna.com/>;

Per Ken Nordtvedt:
I just happen to have a new paper on SE European yhaplogroups. It includes
regions of Italy with R1b percentages: Northcentral Italy 62 percent,
Sardinia 22 percent, Calabria 32 percent. I am impressed at these high
levels. Now if we only had a good database of extended haplotypes we could
see if Italian R1b differed significantly from Iberian R1b, and whether this
had implications for the repopulating of Northern Europe after the last
glacial maximum?


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