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Subject: Re: Iberian R1b marker combinations
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 08:42:58 -0700 (PDT)
I have been able to find a few of my ancestral lines represented in the SMGF database this past week. One of my somewhat unusual probable-R1b haplotypes has the 24-11-13-13 (390, 391, 392, 393) combination. Have modal values for other markers associated with the "Iberian" R1b haplotype been determined? I am interested in comparing this ancestral haplotype with additional marker values associated the "Iberian" R1b to see how it compares.
This haplotype is somewhat unusual. There is only one close match (different surname) in SMGF at 33/36 (or 33/35 ignoring a rare marker result) and then the next matches drop to 11/11 and 6/7. The result on one marker is so rare it only occurs 2 other times in SMGF and isn't an option in Ysearch. On Ysearch, there are no matches (38 markers entered) at a distance of 0, and at a genetic distance of 1, the number of markers compared drops to 13 and 12, and at a genetic distance of 2 the number of markers compared is still 12 markers. This line goes back to mid-1700s Pennsylvania (German surnames) with possible ancestry in Wuerttemberg or possibly Alsace.
"Robert Tarín" wrote:
There has been recent discussion about Y-DNA marker combinations used to
identify an Irish modal haplotype. Using DYS 390, 391, 392, 393 marker
values it is thought that the values of 25, 11, 14, 13 seem to indicate
Irish ancestry. After looking at some studies, I was curious what the values
for Hispanics might show. Out of 309 Hispanic (Iberian) haplotypes these are
the results I came up with for over 90% of them. The remaining "other"
combinations are all under 1% each.
These are for Haplogroup R1b
390-391-392-393 (Quantity or Percent)
24-11-13-13 (144 or 46.60%)