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From: ellen Levy <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] Ethnic Migrations Across Europe
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 20:58:04 -0700 (PDT)
In-Reply-To: <008501c5bcc4$ad2b5fc0$0f139a8e@PeterAKincaid>


Peter:

I must agree with you here. It is probably not a good
idea to tell a person seeking further information on
their DNA results that his R1a indicates "Slavic"
origin or his J2 indicates "Turkish or Jewish" origin.
Although R1a appears to have entered the British
Isles with the Vikings, we have no idea if it was
present in the British Isles prior to the Vikings (I
suspect it must have been) and in what frequency. A
Wallace who is R1a or J2 is just as "British" in his
ethnic ancestry as someone who is I or R1b.

Ellen Coffman

--- "Peter A. Kincaid" <> wrote:

>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Greg W. Moore" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2005 9:42 PM
> Subject: [DNA] Ethnic Migrations Across Europe
>
>
> [snip]
>
> > To: the Wallace family - your R1a was brought to
> Scotland from Eastern
> > Europe then after the Viking raides there and/or
> extensive past Scottish
> > emigration to Poland and other countires around.
> The Scots served there in
> > various armies, participated in trade, etc. R1a is
> a typical Slavic
> > haplogroup ...
> >
> > ... Indeed, the Vikings served as kind of
> "carriers" of the Slavic blood
> > (R1a DNA) from Eastern Europe back to the British
> Isles and Scandinavia.
> > The original, ethnic Vikings though all had the
> Ixy haplogroup. The R1a
> > got mixed up into it after the many raides
> afterwards ... Yet another,
> > separate option possible in the Crystal's case is
> that the Scots
> > themselves came back from Eastern Europe to
> Scotland and brought that
> > R1a - it is possible then that the Wallaces,
> including William Wallace,
> > are originally / ethnically of Slavic origin ...
> That wouldn't be a
> > suprise - Scotland overall is composed of the mix
> of the Picts (ancient
> > Celts), Scots (Celtic Gauls), Britons (ancient
> Celts), Vikings, Normans
> > (Celtic Vikings), Angles, Saxons, Danes, Romans,
> Sarmatians (Iranians),
> > and possibly ... Slavs (after the raides and
> trade) ...
> >
>
> William Wallace's last name points to a British
> origin. His place of
> abode points to a British origin. Unless one finds
> one of "his pieces"
> to do a DNA test I believe his ethnic origin has to
> remain what has
> been accepted - British.
>
> Peter
>
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