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From: "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] Basics on Ethnic Groups - Celts, Scots, Picts
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 23:17:23 -0600
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David, I hope you are not addressing the "there's no I1b in Britain"
message to me. I've been saying that all day. It's a fairly simple (and
minimal) count in Ysearch, even using the most generous root haplotype
definition of I1b (not the haplogroup self-identification tab) which must
overcount, not undercount. I1c is another story.

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Faux" <>
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Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2005 9:48 PM
Subject: Re: [DNA] Basics on Ethnic Groups - Celts, Scots, Picts

> Ken and Greg:
> I have no idea where this I1b notion is coming from. Unless things have
> changed once again, I have it from a reliable source that originally the
> researchers there thought that they were looking at a relatively high rate
> of haplogroup G in some of the clan chieftains. Subsequent work showed
> this to be I1c. Never did anyone tell me about a single example of I1b
> being found, but or course we are all waiting with baited breath for the Y
> study of Ireland by McEvoy at TCD to be published this year in AJHG and
> there could be a few surprises.
> David Faux.

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