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From: "CJMax" <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] William Wallace
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 19:42:25 -0500
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Peter, > Have you not heard that the Welsh were British?? Again, a sadly overworked political word suggesting unity and political accord which in reality is stressed. Cliff. Johnston "May the best you've ever seen, Be the worst you'll ever see;" from A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter A. Kincaid" <> To: <> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 7:26 PM Subject: Re: [DNA] William Wallace > Have you not heard that the Welsh were British?? > > Peter > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Greg W. Moore" <> > To: <> > Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 8:51 PM > Subject: [DNA] William Wallace > > >> Peter, >> >> Have you heard the version that William Wallace's ancestors were >> Welsh..?? >> >> Greg >> >> >> >> >> "Peter A. Kincaid" <> wrote: >> First of all, from what I see of the results to date there is just one >> R1a. The bulk of the Wallaces are given as R1b and I. >> >> Secondly, we do can't have direct male decendants of William Wallace >> tested as there are none. Thus, it is impossible to infer his haplotype. >> >> As far as other Wallaces we have no way of knowing if near male >> Wallace relatives were affected by a non paternity event; or even >> William Wallace himself for that matter. I gave you one example >> where the head of one Clan is descended from another family. >> >> Again I will hold to my position that unless can find and test one >> of the pieces of William Wallace then the only assertion that can >> be made is that he was British. >> >> Peter >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Greg W. Moore" <> >> To: <> >> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 12:10 AM >> Subject: Re: [DNA] Ethnic Migrations Across Europe >> >> >>> Peter, >>> >>> In the genealogical terms - certainly YES. But, because the present >>> Wallace family reports the R1a haplogroup the speculation at the time >>> (November 2004) was that ethnically he came from the R1a Slavic aeras >>> some, may be, two thousand years ago ... >>> >>> Greg >>> >>> >>> >>> "Peter A. Kincaid" <> wrote: >>> >> ............................................................................ >>> >>> >>> William Wallace's last name points to a British origin. His place of >>> abode >>> points to a British origin. Unless one finds one of "his pieces" to do a >>> DNA test I believe his ethnic origin has to remain what has been >>> accepted - British. >>> >>> Peter >> >> >> >> >> ============================== >> Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >> areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >> Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >> >> > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx