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From: "CJMax" <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] William Wallace
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 20:12:13 -0500
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Duh, "British"

Cliff. Johnston
"May the best you've ever seen,
Be the worst you'll ever see;"
from A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter A. Kincaid" <>
To: <>
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 8:09 PM
Subject: Re: [DNA] William Wallace


> Which one?
>
> Peter
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "CJMax" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 9:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [DNA] William Wallace
>
>
>> Peter,
>>
>>> Have you not heard that the Welsh were British??
>>
>> Again, a sadly overworked political word suggesting unity and political
>> accord which in reality is stressed.
>>
>> Cliff. Johnston
>> "May the best you've ever seen,
>> Be the worst you'll ever see;"
>> from A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Peter A. Kincaid" <>
>> To: <>
>> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 7:26 PM
>> Subject: Re: [DNA] William Wallace
>>
>>
>>> Have you not heard that the Welsh were British??
>>>
>>> Peter
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Greg W. Moore" <>
>>> To: <>
>>> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 8:51 PM
>>> Subject: [DNA] William Wallace
>>>
>>>
>>>> Peter,
>>>>
>>>> Have you heard the version that William Wallace's ancestors were
>>>> Welsh..??
>>>>
>>>> Greg
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Peter A. Kincaid" <> wrote:
>>>> First of all, from what I see of the results to date there is just one
>>>> R1a. The bulk of the Wallaces are given as R1b and I.
>>>>
>>>> Secondly, we do can't have direct male decendants of William Wallace
>>>> tested as there are none. Thus, it is impossible to infer his
>>>> haplotype.
>>>>
>>>> As far as other Wallaces we have no way of knowing if near male
>>>> Wallace relatives were affected by a non paternity event; or even
>>>> William Wallace himself for that matter. I gave you one example
>>>> where the head of one Clan is descended from another family.
>>>>
>>>> Again I will hold to my position that unless can find and test one
>>>> of the pieces of William Wallace then the only assertion that can
>>>> be made is that he was British.
>>>>
>>>> Peter
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Greg W. Moore" <>
>>>> To: <>
>>>> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 12:10 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [DNA] Ethnic Migrations Across Europe
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Peter,
>>>>>
>>>>> In the genealogical terms - certainly YES. But, because the present
>>>>> Wallace family reports the R1a haplogroup the speculation at the time
>>>>> (November 2004) was that ethnically he came from the R1a Slavic aeras
>>>>> some, may be, two thousand years ago ...
>>>>>
>>>>> Greg
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Peter A. Kincaid" <> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>> ............................................................................
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> William Wallace's last name points to a British origin. His place of
>>>>> abode
>>>>> points to a British origin. Unless one finds one of "his pieces" to do
>>>>> a
>>>>> DNA test I believe his ethnic origin has to remain what has been
>>>>> accepted - British.
>>>>>
>>>>> Peter
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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