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From: Thomas Krahn <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] Results from DNA-fingerprint
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 00:07:53 +0200
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>David, that's an interesting value for the g-type copy on DYS464. Thomas
>Krahn has found that g-copy usually shows a higher value. In your case the
>15.3 seems to test the limits of that generalization. (Though I recognize
>that with two c-copies with the same value, you still have the g-type as
>one of the two largest allele values established for 464.)
>
>
The most interesting thing about this haplotype is, that this is the
first 15.3 value that I have ever observed in R1b.
15.3 is frequently found in E3b. E3b males have 4 g-types. This one is
also a g-type, but the other 3 are c-types.
This would give some kind of "link" between R1b and E3b.

Two possibilities:
1.) R1b is related to E3b
2.) We have some strange recombination (??????)

Any clues?

>Did you order S21 from EA?
>
>Does DNA-FP report DYS461 using the nomenclature followed by SMGF? Because
>of the Portuguese haplotypes we were discussing earlier, I have been
>sensitized to a possible off-by-one problem on this locus. I just want to
>make sure that the DYS461=12 on your Ysearch page reflects what other
>Ysearch submitters mean when they put up a value for this locus.
>
>
We have changed the DYS461 nomenclature on Aug. 1st to match all the
other databases and the new ISFG guidelines
(because the ISFG has changed the rules for DYS461, too).
No conversion is necessary.
If old customers are confused, they can ask me for the right value.

Thomas

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