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From: "Eldon Wade" <>
Subject: RE: [DNA] More S21 Results
Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2005 10:17:58 -0400
In-Reply-To: <000e01c5c691$5f8de720$71509045@Ken1>


Ken,

It is S21.

Eldon

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ken Nordtvedt [mailto:]
> Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 10:07 AM
> To:
> Subject: Re: [DNA] More S21 Results
>
> Who was taking bets this morning? Ysearch 23UDR should turn
> out derived for S21; it seems to have all 4 marker things
> going for it being in the Frisian cluster. But that cluster
> can not be the main source of derived-S21 if that 30 percent
> estimate is to hold up. The cluster had 135 haplotypes from
> Sorenson. That's decent, but given the size of the whole R1b
> population, or for that matter just the DYS390,391=23,11 R1b
> population in the Sorenson database, this is too small a sole
> source. But at least it directs us toward the continent in
> the search for the larger source(s) which may have had their
> contributions to the peopling of the British Isles as well.
>
> Is it S1 or S21? Where did I get the "21"?
>
> Ken
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John McEwan" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 2:53 AM
> Subject: RE: [DNA] More S21 Results
> -----Original Message-----
> > From: John T Nichols [mailto:]
> > Sent: Saturday, 1 October 2005 6:09 p.m.
> > To:
> > Subject: Re: [DNA] More S21 Results
> >
> > John,
> >
> > You can add me to your table of R1b1c haplotypes (Ysearch
> ID = 23UDR)
> > with M343+/P25+/M269+, negative for the downstream SNPs and S1 test
> > still pending. In your phylogram I fall into the R1bcc group.
> >
> > John T. Nichols
> >
>
>
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