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From: "John McEwan" <>
Subject: RE: [DNA] More S21 Results
Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2005 13:40:11 +1300
In-Reply-To: <01f501c5c6db$27586890$8a97893e@Masterbedroom>


Dear Gareth
I have added columns for 464x test.

I have previously skipped reading the messages for this and the 389 test
in detail, but assume its "officially" recorded something like 15c 15c
16c 17g ...

Cheers

John McEwan

-----Original Message-----
From: [mailto:]
Sent: Sunday, 2 October 2005 11:55 a.m.
To:
Subject: Re: [DNA] More S21 Results

John

this is going beyond the original remit but I think it might be
relevant.
Would it be possible to record on your S21 page whether the testees have
also had a DYS464X test with the expected 3c1g results? We have recently
heard of one probable R1b whose DYS464 appears to be in the ancestral 4g
format, suggesting that the 3c1g variation is downstream to the M269
SNP.
Many of the S21 list are names I recognise as having had a DYS464X test
already, others may be considering this test as adding information on
their
R1b ancestry.

Gareth


----- Original Message -----
From: "John McEwan" <>
To: <>
Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 9:53 AM
Subject: RE: [DNA] More S21 Results


> Thanks John and Charles
>
> Will add both of you to the list. This S21 thing is almost turning
into
> a slow paced "who dun it".
>
> Cheers
>
> John McEwan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John T Nichols [mailto:]
> Sent: Saturday, 1 October 2005 6:09 p.m.
> To:
> Subject: Re: [DNA] More S21 Results
>
> John,
>
> You can add me to your table of R1b1c haplotypes (Ysearch ID = 23UDR)
> with M343+/P25+/M269+, negative for the downstream SNPs and S1 test
> still pending. In your phylogram I fall into the R1bcc group.
>
> John T. Nichols
>
> John McEwan wrote:
>
> >Dear List
> >
> >After a busy week at a conference have returned to browse the many
> >messages on the list. I have been keeping notes on publicly reported
> R1b
> >SNP results as I have found it is the only way to actually understand
> >the postings. To help others I have made a summary of these results
> >available on my web site.
> >
> >Note the link to Ysearch finds all people who have tested at least 30
> >markers and up to 2 mismatches.
> >
> >http://www.geocities.com/mcewanjc/s21.htm
> >
> >Comments, errors, overlooked and new results appreciated. In the
latter
> >category not only those that have tested for S21, but also those that
> >are M269- and M343+ or any other values.
> >
> >Cheers
> >
> >John McEwan



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