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From: "David F Reynolds" <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] Hello group.. Need some feed back. please
Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2005 03:01:20 -0700
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Interesting, in Ysearch, you do have a 24/25 match with a McWhirter, and a number of of 12/12 matches with McWhirters (and a few matches with other surnames as well). There can be no doubt you are related to the hg I1c McWhirters, question is whether the connection is within a genealogically meaningful timeframe.

If you are going to pursue the McWhirter connection, you really need to get at least one or two of the McWhirters to upgrade to 37 markers, to compare against your Spencer that had the 37 marker test. A 37 marker comparision will give you a much more accurate indication of whether there is a connection within a meaningful timeframe. A good next step would be to contact the group admin for the McWhirter project (and the I1c Spencers might want to consider joining the McWhirter project as a second project).

Based on your close matches, the odds are high that your Spencers came from Scotland.

Regards,
david

On Mon, 03 Oct 2005 02:18:10 -0700, Patricia <> wrote:

> Lynn, who took charge of our part of the family and getting set up I believe
> was told by the Spencer that it seemed unlikely that there would be a match
> for any Spencer. IF not by the Spencer maybe the FTM
>
> Some one ventured to say that we were closer to McWhirters. Lynn, did find
> that back in 1700s there were McWhirters lived next door to the Spencers. .
> But that was so many years ago..... don't know if that is an avenue we can
> find any connection to Spencers...................... what can we do to rule
> in or out the McWhirter idea? Can you even tell what nationality we are?
> English, Irish we have never know.......that either.
>
> Thank Dave,
>
> pat
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David F Reynolds" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 3:09 AM
> Subject: Re: [DNA] Hello group.. Need some feed back. please
>
>
>> Patricia,
>>
>> What data point is leading you to suspect a non-paternity event? Unless
>> you have a very solid paper trail proving a relationship, the simplest
>> assumption is that your hg I1c Spencers are simply a different line of
>> Spencers, not related to the R1b Spencers who predominate in the the
>> results. And even with a solid paper trail, you should not rule out the
>> possibility of an error in the paper trail.
>>
>> Regards,
>> david
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 03 Oct 2005 00:17:28 -0700, Patricia <> wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.familytreedna.com/public/SPENCER/
>>>
>>>
>>> In light of the recent exchange of non paternity results. I am trying to
>>> send the list the information about my line. Above is the Spencer site
>>> where our tests were listed. From the list of results our group is
>>> Number 15 at the button of the list. We are Spencer for 8 generations
>>> and have many hundreds of people in our line. Some have already give up
>>> others don't understand about not being Spencers. I am wondering are we
>>> dead in the water? is there any thing else we can do to find our Surname
>>> group? is there any thing we cal learn from this information?
>>> Nationality? I have transcribed the results of the person that had the
>>> 37 marker test. The best I can tell the other three that had 12 markers
>>> done are identical. One has a I for a haplo none is listed for the other
>>> three.
>>>
>>> haplo-393-390-19-391--385a-
>>> 385b-426-388-439-38911-392-38912-458-459a-459b-455-454-447-437-448-449-464a-464b-464c-464d-460-GATAH4-YCAIIa-YCAIIb-456--
>>> I 15 24 15 10 15 16 11 13 11 13 12
>>> 29 16 8 9 11 11 26 15 20 27 11 11 15
>>> 15 10 10
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