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From: "Glen Todd" <>
Subject: RE: [DNA] Origins of Haplogroup H3 ?
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 17:06:56 -0600
> Those interested in haplogroup H should also review
> Loogvali's "Disuniting uniformity: a pied cladistic canvas
> of mtDNA haplogroup H in Eurasia"
This paper presents a confusing contrast to Pereira et al 2005, in that one
of Pereira's major peaks for H1 (in fact, the most major peak, although the
paper acknowledges that there may be quantitative questions with the height
of the peak) occurs in Norway, and unless I'm missing something, Loogvali
seems to ignore the Scandinavian peninsula (actually most of north-western
Europe) entirely, for reasons that are not addressed. Achilli et al 2004
also seems to show this same curious hole in the dataset. It may be that
the researchers are interested specifically in the LGM period, which would
certainly explain the lack of consideration of the Teutonic and Scandinavian
lands, but to ignore the probable effects of large scale post-LGM migration
seems to me to be a trifle short-sighted.
Even allowing for a -30% bugger factor in the height of their H1 peak, which
is what their numbers seem to suggest, Pereira et al still puts their
highest H1 peak in Norway, hollowed by the Iberian peninsula peaks, which
certainly suggests to me a large scale migration north at some point after
the ice receded. It seems to me that this is significantly worth taking