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From: VALERY <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] PubMed abstract: Y-chromosome variation in South Siberia
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2005 12:57:23 +0300
References: <20051103035710.56346.qmail@web50710.mail.yahoo.com>


Dienekes posted a very interesting comment: the most frequent Siberian
haplotype matches another one found in Hungarians of Szekely:

>Update: The most frequent haplotype (#40) in Siberians, defined over
(DYS19, DYS385a, DYS385b, DYS389I, DYS389II, DYS390, DYS391, DYS392, DYS393,
DYS437, DYS438, DYS439) is: 16 11 14 14 18 25 11 11 13 14 11 10. This was
not found in the extensive Russian sample, so it may represent a quite
distinctive Central Asian haplotype. Interestingly, a search in YHRD with
this haplotype revealed only a single match in the Hungarian-speaking sample
Lunca de Sus, Romania [Csángó]. This may serve to illustrate the paucity of
relevant samples in YHRD. If we exclude DYS438 and DYS439 which are not
typed in all samples in YHRD, then additional matches are found in Central
Anatolian Turks, Szekely (also Hungarian-speaking) from Romania and in
Ljubljana, Slovenia. If we further remove the fast-mutating DYS385 markers,
then the following matches are found.


I suspect, this exact type was not found in Slavs due to undersampling.

Interesting, several hvs1 haplotypes of East Siberian origin were found in
Hungarian population of Szekely:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/viewer.fcgi?db=nucleotide&val=28625881

and Hungary as well:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/viewer.fcgi?db=nucleotide&val=28625920

148-223-288-298-327

Some C haplogroup types (that share 288 transition with this one)
sporadically occur in
large Slavonic samples, particularly in Poles and Russians;
Germans (Poetsch 2003) and Poles (Malyarchuk 2002) of Pomerania share the
ancestral type 223-234-288-298-327. Xiongnu sample possess the variant with
288 too.


Buryats of Derenko C 148-223-288-298-327
Buryats of Pakendorf 148-223-288-298-327
Buryats of Pakendorf 148-223-288-298-327
China (Xinjiang, Kazakh) of Yao C 148-164-223-288-298-327
Evenks of Starikovskaya C3 148-164-223-288-298-327-519
Evenks of Starikovskaya C3 148-164-223-288-298-327-519
Georgians Nasidze 2001 148-223-288-298-319-327
Hungarians from Carpathes of Kalmar C 148-223-288-298-327
Hungarians from Carpathes of Kalmar C 148-223-288-298-327
Kazakhs of Yao C 148-164-223-288-298-327
Khakassians of Derenko C 148-164-223-288-298-327
Kirghiz highland C 148-223-288-298-327
Kirghiz lowland C 093-148-223-288-298-327
Kirghiz lowland C 148-223-288-298-327
Komi C 148-223-288-298-327
Kyrgyzs of Comas 148-223-288-298-327
Kyrgyzs of Comas 148-223-288-298-327
Mansi of Derbeneva C 114A-148-223-288-298-327-519
Nenets C 148-223-288-298-327
Nenets C 148-223-288-298-327
Nenets C 148-223-288-298-327
Nganasans of Derbeneva 2002 C 148-223-288-298-327-519
Nganasans of Derbeneva 2002 C 148-223-288-298-327-519
Nganasans of Derbeneva 2002 C 148-223-288-298-327-519
Nganasans of Derbeneva 2002 C 148-223-288-298-327-519-64
Nganasans of Derbeneva 2002 C 148-223-288-298-327-519-64
Nganasans of Osipova C 148-223-288-298-327
Nganasans of Osipova C 148-223-288-298-327
Nganasans of Osipova C 148-223-288-298-327
Nganasans of Osipova C 148-223-288-298-327
Nganasans of Osipova C 148-223-288-298-327
Nganasans of Osipova C 148-223-288-298-327
Nganasans of Osipova C 148-223-288-298-327
Nganasans of Osipova C 148-223-288-298-327
Nganasans of Osipova C 148-223-288-298-327
Oroqen C 148-223-288-298-327
Sojots of Derenko C 148-223-288-298-327
Tofalars of Derenko C 148-223-288-298-327
Tofalars of Derenko C 148-223-288-298-327
Tofalars of Derenko C 148-223-288-298-327
Tofalars of Derenko C 148-223-288-298-327
Tofalars of Derenko C 148-223-288-298-327
Tofalars of Starikovskaya C3 148-223-288-298-327-519
Tofalars of Starikovskaya C3 148-223-288-298-327-519
Tofalars of Starikovskaya C3 148-223-288-298-327-519
Tofalars of Starikovskaya C3 148-223-288-298-327-519
Tofalars of Starikovskaya C3 148-223-288-298-327-519
Tojins of Derenko C 148-223-288-298-327
Tojins of Derenko C 148-223-288-298-327
Tojins of Derenko C 148-223-288-298-327
Tojins of Derenko C 148-223-288-298-327
Turkey of Comas C 148-223-288-298-327
Tuvinians of Derenko C 148-223-288-298-301-327
Tuvinians of Derenko C 148-223-288-298-327
Tuvinians of Derenko C 148-223-288-298-327
Tuvinians of Derenko C 148-223-288-298-327
Tuvinians of Derenko C 148-223-288-298-327
Tuvinians of Derenko C 148-223-288-298-327
Tuvinians of Starikovskaya C3 148-223-288-298-327-519
Tuvinians of Starikovskaya C3 148-223-288-298-327-519
Yakuts (Tarskaia 2005) 148-223-288-298-327
Yakuts of Derenko C 148-164-223-288-298-327
Yakuts of Derenko C 148-164-223-288-298-327
Yakuts of Derenko C 148-164-223-288-298-327
Yakuts of Fedorova C 148-164-223-288-298-327
Yakuts of Fedorova C 148-164-223-288-298-327
Yakuts of Fedorova C 148-164-223-288-298-327
Yakuts of Fedorova C 148-164-223-288-298-327
Yakuts of Fedorova C 148-164-223-288-298-327
Yakuts of Fedorova C 148-164-223-288-298-327
Yakuts of Fedorova C 148-164-223-288-298-327
Yakuts of Fedorova C 148-164-223-288-298-327
Yakuts of Fedorova C 148-164-223-288-298-327
Yakuts of Fedorova C 148-223-288-298-327
Yakuts of Fedorova C 148-223-288-298-327
Yakuts of Pakendorf C 148-164-223-288-298-327
Yakuts of Pakendorf C 148-164-223-288-298-327
Yakuts of Pakendorf C 148-164-223-288-298-327



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