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From: "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] H Haplo?
Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 17:16:51 -0700
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Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 4:47 PM
Subject: Re: [DNA] H Haplo?
> Hyper link to YHRD is ?
> All 3 of us do show Hungry on the exact match , but my son and cousin also
> show England on the exact match, while I do not show this England exact
> match. Could be my stats haven't been upgraded.
> I do plan on upgrading some day in the future.
> -------------- Original message --------------
>> That this haplotype is close to the gypsy or Romani one is sure the case.
>> Wow! Go to YHRD and put in a root haplotype. The biggest counts in Europe
>> come from just about every "Romani" subpopulation in the YHRD list of
>> regional databases. They have several from Poland, to Hungary, to
>> to Bulgaria, and I think even Czech Republic.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 4:07 PM
>> Subject: Re: [DNA] H Haplo?
>> > Don
>> > thanks for posting your queries to the list. Your haplotype matches
>> > very
>> > closely the Gypsy haplotypes in the following article:
>> > http://evolutsioon.ut.ee/publications/Zhivotovsky2004.pdf
>> > As you have been told, H is rare amongst people of western European
>> > origin.
>> > Men in this haplogroup who have been tested for more than 12 markers
>> > are
>> > very rare, so I hope you will be able to upgrade to 25 or even 37
>> > markers
>> > sometime in the future. As Ken said, H is a close cousin of I, but no
>> > one
>> > really knows yet how close or precisely how G,H,I,J and K relate to
>> > each
>> > other. With enough data we might get more of an idea of ancestral
>> > values
>> > at
>> > the points at which these groups split from each other.
>> > Best wishes
>> > Gareth
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From:
>> > To:
>> > Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 10:36 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [DNA] H Haplo?
>> >> Thanks everyone for taking the time to help me :)
>> >> I did consult Bennett Greenspan on this and he said H was rare in
>> > England, but that they were there. My Haplo does show strong matches to
>> > India and that is a hard thing to explain to the cousins as we are no
>> > doubt
>> > English and appear English in looks. But, the colonial family living in
>> > India may sort of explain it maybe.
>> >> I know haplo origin goes way farther back then what I have traced, but
>> >> I
>> > have traced back to the late 1600's in Maryland USA and 2 books make
>> > reference saying my immigrant ancestor was of English Parentage. So I
>> > know
>> > as of the 1600's we were English lol, long before that it appears we
>> > were
>> > in
>> > or around India I guess.
>> >> Anyway, thank you all, I will hit the books and watch this list and
>> >> LEARN!
>> >> Don
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