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From: "David F Reynolds" <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] S21
Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 14:31:19 -0800
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In-Reply-To: <001a01c5e579$17cb9a70$f3de0818@mycomputer>


The two of you are at a genetic distance of 19, so you are not related to this fellow anytime in the last several thousands of years. Hart is a surname with multiple origins, and in this case, you are clearly not descended from a common Hart ancestor.

He's in one haplogroup, a yet to be named subgroup of R1b1c, which is defined by S21+. You are in a different haplogroup, R1b1c*.

While two people can be in the same haplogroup with a genetic distance of 19, it is certainly not surprising when they aren't.

Regards,
david


On Wed, 09 Nov 2005 14:01:09 -0800, LewisHart <> wrote:

> Hi Ann,
> Yes, the haplotypes are posted at Ysearch. Mine is 7FZUQ and the other
> one is SMTNE. Also, here is the link to where the SNP matches were
> discovered:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DNA-ANTHROGENEALOGY/database?method=reportRows&tbl=1.
> Everything matches except he has S21- and I have S21+. Here are the two
> haplotypes: Mine is on the top
> R1b 13 23 14 12 11 14 12 12 11 13 13 30 19 9 10 11 11 23 15 19 29 15
> 16 17 18 10 10 19 23 18 15 17 17 35 37 13 12
>
> R1b 13 23 15 11 9 14 12 12 11 13 13 29 18 9 10 11 11 25 15 18 29 15 15
> 16 17 11 11 19 22 17 15 18 16 37 37 12 12
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 10:37 AM
> Subject: Re: [DNA] S21
>
>
>> In a message dated 11/09/05 9:26:25 AM Pacific Standard Time,
>> writes:
>>
>>> David Faux,
>>> I match one of my participants in the Hart group with all markers
>>> upstream
>>> and including M269+. All markers down stream of M269+ are negative. He
>>> has
>>> S21- and I have S21+. Does that sound like a typo or is it to early to
>>> make a
>>> judgement with S21?
>>>
>>
>> Are your respective STR haplotypes posted at Ysearch or on a website?
>>
>> Ann Turner
>>
>> Ann
>>
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