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Subject: Re: Red hair blue eyes etc
Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 15:37:34 EST



Ken,

I would like to see that table as well. My father was fair complexion,
reddish blond hair and blue eyes (my brother's the same except taller than my
father). His maternal first cousin was dark complexion, dark hair and brown eyes.
Both were born within a few miles from each other in Turlough Civil Parish
in County Mayo (Connaught Province) Ireland. More importantly his mother and
father were cousins according to the Y-DNA test that my brother and cousin had
done.

I hope to get my female paternal cousin to have the mtDNA test to see my
paternal grandmother's haplotype. She looked more Irish than my paternal
grandfather (the one with the Basque roots).

Nora Hopkins FitzGerald


In a message dated 11/13/2005 2:51:48 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
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That's why I hunger for a good table of blue or brown eye frequency by
region and country. Take Connaught on the west coast of Ireland, for
example. It is almost pure R1b. I don't know how its mtdna makeup breaks
down, though. I'd like to know the frequency of brown eyes in Connaught,
and then try to explain that by R1a folks who came into Europe several
thousand years ago, and a few thousand miles to the east, etc. The R1b of
Connaught is supposed to be from Iberia according to conventional views.

If central and northern Europe's gene composition was pretty much of a
single y haplogroup and single mtdna haplogroup, I would not wonder very
much about the large suppression of the brown eye genes. Anything can
happen once. But both the ydna and mtdna are a mixed bag of haplogroups
which apparently parted long ago and are said to have come into Europe in
separate migratory events according to many journal articles. So why such
different groups from Connaught to east of the Baltic end up with majority
blue eyes (assuming that is the case?) is the mystery to me.

Ken







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