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From: ellen Levy <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] J1 or J2 were originally ALL CMH?
Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 13:24:16 -0800 (PST)
However, I do agree with your assessment, Dienekes,
that the CMH can appear independently on both a J1 and
J2 background (ie, cross-over haplotypes).
Unfortunately, I have no information concerning the
putative ancestral haplotype for J*.
--- Yair Davidiy <> wrote:
> At 02:40 PM 11/27/2005, you wrote:
> >The CMH can arise on a J1 and a J2 background
> In other words it is not a one-time event?
> >addition to the CMH, there are numerous other
> haplotypes shared by
> >both J1 and J2, and there is no reason to believe
> that the CMH in
> >particular was the ancestral haplotype of
> haplogroup J. Actually, it
> >was almost certainly not, because the CMH has a
> long DYS388-16, and
> >ancestral J almost certainly had a short DYS388.
> It therefore appears in both J1 and J2 after they
> have separated from each
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