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From: "George Haynes" <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] J1 or J2 were originally ALL CMH?
Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 21:00:58 -0500
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Wow! I guess I can change my entry in ysearch to J2a with my DYS413 being
17-17. Since I was negative to all the other SNPs downstream of M172, and
I assume I will be M410+, might my new subclade be now more precisely
called J2a*? It was getting tiresome typing DiGiacomo's
J2-(DYS413<=18)(xJ2a,J2f) anyway.

If anyone has a copy of the PDF I would appreciate it if they could forward
it. Cavalli-Sforza and Underhill are named among the authors.

George Haynes


> On 11/27/05, Sasson Margaliot <> wrote:
> > As for J2, it splits into two branches, based on a "quasi-SNP" mutation
in
> > DYS413 discovered already in 2000, shortly after discovery if the group
J2
> > itself. In one of the branches Y-chromosomes have low value at DYS413,
in
> > another branch - high value (more than 18).This division of J2 into two
> > branches received much less attention, but it is very clearly explaned
in Di
> > Giakomo et al. (2004), page 4.
>
> J2 is actually split now into J2a and J2b. J2b is equivalent to the
> old J2e and J2a contains all other J2's, including the DYS413 ones
> with the short allele.
>
> http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2005/11/new-paper-on-indian-y-chromosome.html
>
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