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From: David Faux <>
Subject: New Y Phylogenetic Chart
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2005 10:24:29 -0800 (PST)
In-Reply-To: <438F3104.1090902@scs.uiuc.edu>


Good point Doug. This matter will be brought before the new working group at ISOGG which is charged with (or we have charged ourselves) with the responsiblity of incorporating the many changes that have occured of late but are not being addressed by the academic community. Thus we will create our own chart with built in flexibilty to have a Version 3.1 installed on the website in an instant. 2002 was the last "official" phylogenetic chart - that is unacceptable. There are many changes and a lot of these are not reflected in the 2003 (Jobling) and 2005 (U of A) efforts. These are static entities - we will be creating something fluid that can keep up with the changes. At Ethnoancestry we have 28 new SNPs alone and there are many new arrangements for the M's and P's that have become apparent of late. ISOGG will take the bull by the horns.

David Faux.

Doug McDonald <> wrote:

> writes:
>
>
>> “Ethnoancestry is pleased to announce the launch of a new SNP, S22,
>>which unites haplogroups I and J to the exclusion of G, H and K, within the
>>F
>>supergroup.


OK, it's now happened.

So what to do with nomenclature?

We really don't want to rename I and J as they now exist. Since we as
yet, apparently, don't have anybody in this group and not in I or J,
we don't have to worry about it ... it just appears as a blank on the
tree, like the union of D and E does.

In this case, a simple solution, however, is available, if rather
messy: make this newfound group F2, and I and J become subgroups
of F2. If somebody is found who has S22 but is not I or J, they
would be F2.

This would not work if somebody was found who was YAP/M145/M213
but not either M174 or SRY4064/P29/M96. Presumably we would
then resort to the kludge used by MTDNA and call these folks DE*.

What do others think?

Doug Mcdonald


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