GENEALOGY-DNA-L Archives

Archiver > GENEALOGY-DNA > 2005-12 > 1134255615


From: "DONALD MILLIGAN" <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] At last --Some Results from the Irish Study
Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 15:00:15 -0800
References: <E1El6BH-0000bO-00@pop-borzoi.atl.sa.earthlink.net>


Hi David W & List :

Previously, I've been under the impression that the 25/11/14 folk historically have been found in significant numbers in the areas of Ireland that were home to Brythonic-speaking folk, e.g.: The Ui Neill & the Dal Riada folk ( who had close connections with Argyll, Scotland) of Ulster were Gaelic-speakers, while the Clanna Rory & the DalnAraide of Ulster were Brythonic-speakers who had close contacts with the Brythonic-speakers of Galloway Scotland. If any of this is true, then, would not this language difference point to different founders for these two different groups?
----- Original Message -----
From: David Wilson<mailto:>
To: <mailto:>
Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2005 6:58 AM
Subject: Re: [DNA] At last --Some Results from the Irish Study


Yes. The TCD team's IMH is the same thing as the 25/11/14 "Irish" variety
(McEwan's STR19) that we discuss on this list.

There is not a complete overlap between the tested marker sets. The TCD
analysis was based on 17 loci that included some not tested by FTDNA -- 434,
435 and 436. Also, some of the diagnostic values for the "Irish" variety in
the full 37-marker set were not tested by the TCD team -- DYS385b, for
example, which is typically 13 in the Irish variety.

David W.



On 12/10/2005 6:33:25 AM, <mailto:> wrote:
> David
>
> just to check - the IMH discussed in the article is the same as the modal
> haplotype for the "Irish" cluster you identified (STR19 in John
> McEwan's
> charts)?
>
> Gareth

--
No virus found in this outgoing message.
Checked by AVG Free Edition.
Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/197 - Release Date: 12/9/2005



==============================
Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for
ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more:
http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx<http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx>;


This thread: