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From: "Herbert Hendricks" <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] RE: Are you missing the Geno boat?
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 17:24:30 -0500
We had the case between two groups (4 in one and 2 in another who no one thought were kin per their lineages and the part of the USA) that matched 11 out of 12. They all matched all in the 25 group. When the 37 came in there was a slight mismatch on two markers (all mismatches on mutation sites). However overall everyone match within 2. Two in the group had no idea who they were. Two had their ancestors independently back to 1617. The other two had their back to 1700 and in an entirely different part of the US in 1700s.
When you compare these six to the other 44 in our project it isn't even a challenge to see the separation. In nearly all of our 37 markers tests and they are predominant in our project, there is no question when you see the differences in the distances that we have 23 very independent groups of Hendricks. I don't feel I could make this statement if we only tested 12 markers. My advice came from the Hill and Freeman group who had run into the problem of thinking they had kin and then doing 25 marker test and then 37 to separate out the groups. I was told to go straight to the 37 marker test and it has shown the way without question.
Retired NASA Physicist
Hendricks(on) DNA Project Group Administrator
Secretary Hendricks Family Association
1210 Long Meadow DR
Lynchburg, VA 24502
434 832 7246
----- Original Message -----
From: Dennis Wright<mailto:>
Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 3:50 PM
Subject: RE: [DNA] RE: Are you missing the Geno boat?
Perhaps it is different with a Surname that can be traced to a single
Ancestor, but I feel that with an occupational Surname where there were
perhaps hundreds of sources, across several haplogroups, I am looking for a
surname match of 37/37 before I could be even reasonably certain I have the
With over 100 participants in the WRIGHT group and not even a 12/12 match, I
feel I have to wait for more participants.
Cheers and happy hunting
> Dear Dennis,
> To just stop and look at 12 and even 25 markers, in our
> experience is really a waste, and not an indication of your
> desire to know your family. 37 marker testing has proven from
> our small sampling of only 50 people (23 different groups) so far
> is the only way to make family connections. In fact we are
> questioning if 37 markers are enough to separate out various
> members of a family.
> Herb Hendricks
> Retired NASA Physicist
> Hendricks(on) DNA Project Group Administrator
> Secretary Hendricks Family Association
> 1210 Long Meadow DR
> Lynchburg, VA 24502
> 434 832 7246
> Hi John,
> All I can say is there are lies, damned lies and statistics!
> Yes I am one of, I suspect, many with NO 12/12 matches.
> And in answer to another post, I think it is a good move to see
> what matches
> you get at 12 markers before investing in 25 or 37.
> As I say at the moment I have none, and I will keep my hand in my pocket
> until I do.
> Dennis Wright
> WRIGHT Surname project member.
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