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From: "James R Carr" <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] New R1b and its subclades Haplogroup Project Launched
Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2005 10:10:41 -0800
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Bob,
This is a new test they just announced a few days ago. I went on their site
and compared what they said they were testing against what the marligen
multiplex stated that they tested for me. You have to link to it off your
personel page and then only if you are elgible. I am because I'm R1b

Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Stafford" <>
To: <>
Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2005 5:26 AM
Subject: Re: [DNA] New R1b and its subclades Haplogroup Project Launched


> Jim,
>
> FTDNA does not test to R1b1c*, based on their 2005 tree. They only test
> to R1b1c. Marligen and "The Works" both test it x a few markers whose
> utility is a little dubious. I would opt for the multiplex (at EA or
> DNAH) plus fill-ins at EA for R1b, given the small difference in price.
> It is a long shot, but, if a person tests postive for one of the rare
> markers, the extra $16-20 will be well worth it.
>
> For R1a, it looks like FTDNA would be the most economical choice for
> those who have tested there, since all firms appear to test the same
> markers.
>
> IIf an informed consumer, wants to aid EA's research and/or wants the
> most certainty for his results, ordering "The Works" or other tests at EA
> makes a lot of sense. They do seem to be making some useful discoveries.
> Given the previous lack of progress on R1b, their research is clearly
> something of value that should be factored in.
>
> Bob Stafford
>
>
> James R Carr <> wrote: In comparing the two side by side
> they both test the same markers to R1b1c*
> it's when you want to test somethin other then the Marligen kicks in and
> at
> about $90 bucks when I took it, it is reasonable It is when you want to go
> deeper it gets expensive for the time being. Probably less once they
> recoup
> their developmental costs.
> Jim
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Robert Stafford"
> To:
> Sent: Friday, December 23, 2005 9:09 PM
> Subject: Re: [DNA] New R1b and its subclades Haplogroup Project Launched
>
>
>>I see now. I thought he meant the rare markers were extraneous.
>>
>> The multiplex tests has as many markers below M269 as "The Works," so
>> they can be had for much less than a $200 test. They each test one the
>> other doesn't, the last time I looked. They get most of them, so their
>> R1b1c* is pretty much in accordnace with the two different trees.
>>
>> If someone wants R1b1c* according to the trees (on nearly so), he
>> would
>> have to take the multiplex or "The Works," so FTDNA wouldn't be an
>> option.
>>
>> Bob Stafford
>>
>> wrote:
>> Bob,
>>
>> Actually what he said was that the testing path for R1b1c* at FTDNA was
>> the
>> same as the multiplex, but less expensive, and without all the extraneous
>> markers. He also said the testing doesn't go any deeper, but neither does
>> anyone
>> else unless you want to pay $200.
>>
>> He was describing a product and company he was happy with. He was not, as
>> you said, pointing out the markers FTDNA did not test for nor whether the
>> test
>> was worthwhile.
>>
>> Bill D
>>
>> --------------------
>> In a message dated 12/23/2005 10:44:49 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>> writes:
>>
>> Bill,
>>
>> I don't think you followed everything. This had to do with the
>> subclades
>> tested. FTDNA does not test the rare markers. However, James Carr
>> brought up
>> the point that was missing. It really depends on whether they are
>> worthwhile
>> testing.
>>
>> Bob Stafford
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Finding the info on their test is interesting. You go thru the
>> haplogroup
>> tag on your personal page. The deep clad path for R1b1c* is the same as
>> the
>> marlingen I got without the extraneous markers and costs less.( $75 )
>> They won't
>> get you deeper than that at the moment. But neither will anyone else
>> unless
>> you want to spring for around $200. And their turn around time has been
>> darn
>> good lately.
>> Jim
>>
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