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From: "Alfred A. Aburto Jr." <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] Re: Haplogroup I1*x
Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2006 13:00:03 -0800
References: <IGEOKAGLHNEKPCKPADIGIEHILBAA.bbailey.lowedna@baileyconnection.com>
In-Reply-To: <IGEOKAGLHNEKPCKPADIGIEHILBAA.bbailey.lowedna@baileyconnection.com>


> Lowe DNA wrote:

>Ken...
>
>You noted "....The NatGeo/FTDNA 12 marker tests were a setback for the whole
>field....."
>
>The GENOGRAPHIC project so far has been a bust to most of us looking forward
>to detailed STR, SNP, mtDNA results correlated with geographic areas.
>Upgrades numbers for our three projects have even been more disappointing.
>
>
>
I think the 12 Y-STR markers have potential though. There is just a
lack of data. For example I look at my J2-M172 Y-STR marker set from the
NG Genographic Project and I don't line up very well with many of J/J2
haplotypes (I just looked at the Sengupta data set (Am. J. Hum. Genet.
(2006) 78 and I'm not close to any of those J's reported there). So it
looks like 12 markers has potential. With more data I think there will
be interesting results pop out however. I'm hopeful at least.

The Genographic project was seeking a data set of 100,000 samples world
wide I thought. Lofty goal --- it may take a while.
Al

>My wish for the New Year for this project is that someone "asleep" at the
>NGS will wake up and publish some results..
>
>Very disappointed !!
>
>Bill
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Ken Nordtvedt [mailto:]
>Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 1:20 PM
>To:
>Subject: Re: [DNA] Re: Haplogroup I1*x
>
>
>The NatGeo/FTDNA 12 marker tests were a setback for the whole field.
>
>
>>>This morning I just divided I1*x into "a" and "b" parts, and
>>>these are shown
>>>for their different modalities at www.northwestanalysis.net
>>>
>>>The key indicator of I1*x is the combination 12 at DYS454 and 10 at
>>>DYS455 --- extremely unique values for these very, very slow mutating
>>>markers.
>>>
>>>Ken
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>>
>>>>Glen,
>>>>Is someone collecting haplotypes that are probably hg I1*x?
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I think my
>>>
>>>
>>>>grandfather's qualifies, though he's just now being SNP
>>>>
>>>>
>>>tested: Ysearch
>>>
>>>
>>>>X22KV.
>>>>Could you please let me know whom to contact about it?
>>>>Many thanks,
>>>>Lisa
>>>>
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