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From: charles <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] autosomal testing
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 16:09:33 -0500
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Larry:

I would enjoy very much you sharing your research findings using the
DNAPrint test in my log:
http://www.dnaprintlog.org/

I am using the DNAPrint test, and yDNA and mtDNA, to study my PA Deutsch
Ethnic Group.
http://www.kerchner.com/pa-gerdna.htm

Charles

Larry Tupper wrote:
> DNAPrint's autosomal test continues to take a pounding in this forum, and I'd like to relate my experiences with the test.
>
> I first had the ABD Version 2.0 test performed in 2003 and the results were 78% Indo-European and 22% East Asian. Not having any paper evidence of Asian ancestry (though paper records don't always tell the whole story, to say the least) -- and I have seemingly perfect records of my English, French-Canadian and Dutch ancestors on my father's side dating to the 1500s - I first assumed the EA was coming from two of my Indian antecedents (one via my French-Canadian line and the other through the Dutch line). But in both cases, the admixture seemed, on the face of it, far too distant (c. 1700) for the test to have produced such a high non-European number. I then began to take a closer look at some of my more recent ancestors. I first had two of my uncles on my paternal side tested. The result, in both cases, was 0% for both EA and NA. I then became very curious about my mother's side. My mother died when I was a boy, a few years after we'd moved from Chicago to Californi
a,!
> and I knew very little about her family except that her mother was Irish and her father was German (or so I thought). I began researching these lines and was fairly quickly able to determine the accuracy of the accounts of the Irish grandmother. It took months of detective work, though, to get a handle on my maternal grandfather's family. Meanwhile, I'd taken the updated, ABD 2.5 test, and the 22 percent East Asian was dropped to 9 percent. Still a significant percentage. When I was finally able to track down my grandfather's family, I discovered that not only was he not primarily German but that he was born with a name different than the one he handed down to his children, and was not, as he claimed in various records (including his application for a Social Security card) born in this country. He was, in fact, born in Silesia and his native name was a Polish one. His father changed the family name to a more German-sounding surname in 1910, 17 years after they came to thi
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> country. My grandfather was born and baptized in Katowice, in what is now southern Poland, an area that three times in the 13th century was overrun by the Mongols. The Asian genes were no longer a mystery. But that's not the end of the story. More than a year ago now, I had DNAPrint's Euro-DNA test done. The test, as some may know, breaks down the "Indo-European" into Northwestern European, Southeastern European, Middle Eastern and South Asian. I tested, respectively, 35, 35, 10 and 20 percent. Twenty percent South Asian? Too strange, I thought. I don't have any Indian or Pakistani ancestors. It turned out I didn't need to - not directly, anyway. After considerable research, I discovered that the mother of my maternal grandfather (the same one I've been discussing) was from a Sinti gypsy family that had fled to the Katowice area from the Vosges mountains of France in the late 1700s.
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> The DNAPrint test worthless? Not to me.

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