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From: charles <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] haplotype haplogroup correlation - observation and question
Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 17:00:40 -0500
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Thanks Gail for the mention of my report on the difference between the
terms haplotype and haplogroup. Here is the link to the full report.
http://www.kerchner.com/haplogroupvshaplotype.htm

For the record though, my surname is spelled as Kerchner, at least in my
branch for the last 260 years here in America ... although back in
Germany 300 years ago I could have been a Kerchner, Kercher, Kirchner,
Kircher, or a Kaerchner. I'm still working on that angle "across the big
pond". I took the liberty of correcting my name spelling in the clip
below. :-)

Charles Kerchner
Emmaus PA
http://www.ggdictionary.org/

O'Donnell - FTDNA Surname Proj wrote:
> I am looking at two very interesting sites from Wilson and Kerchner - (thanks to both of you). Here they are for your reference to this discussion:
>
> Kerchner: http://www.kerchner.com/haplotypevshaplogroup.htm
> quote: "While the definitive test to determine your haplogroup is a SNP test, many times your haplogroup can be estimated with a reasonable confidence level based on your haplotype test result data."
>
> Wilson: http://home.earthlink.net/~wilsondna/DYS392=14%20Summary.htm
> Haplogroup r1b1c quote: "Single nucleotide polymorphism (SNP) tests of individuals who belong to this group confirm that it lies within Haplogroup R1b1c*"
> scroll to the bottom of the page for the Haplotype chart - "Yellow shading identifies NWI modal values which differ from mainstream R1b."
>
> From these two sources I observe/conclude that if one has the SNP test result of r1b1c, then it is expected that the person will also have the marker results for the NWI. And vice versa.
>
> Has that tested as usually true, that the haplotype correlates to haplogroup? that is, STR 390(25), STR385b(13), STR392(14), STR448(18), STR 449(30), STR464b,c(16) STR456(17), STR607(16), and CDYa,b(37,39) = r1b1c?
>
> What is a reasonable confidence level? A percentage? How is that calculated? I suppose to have reached a confidence level one would need results from persons who have had both haplotype and haplogroup tests.
>
> Is this correlation observed in other ethnic groups? Maybe that is an anthrogenealogy question.
>
> Thanks and regards to all,
>
> Gail

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