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Subject: Re: [DNA] Colla vs Dalriata
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 13:45:30 -0800


Since the proposal that the Scots R1b Modal may represent descent
from the Collas, or descent from a Dal Riadic dynasty, there have
been quite a number of reasonable arguments suggesting that this
proposal could be based on erroneous assumptions. If this modal
can't be associated with the Collas or Dal Riada, then what historic
or prehistoric ethnic/cultural group should we be exploring? This
isn't meant as a rhetorical question. The Scots Modal is indeed very
common in the present population of Scotland & among men with
surnames that are readily identifiable as Scottish in origin. Among
certain Scottish surnames, the modal is found at a higher frequency
than any other haplotype, with the exception of the WAMH. To reduce
it even more, projected samplings suggest that it' greatest frequency
in current populations may be in Argyll & among North Americans,
presumably the descendants of colonists to North America from Argyll
& Ulster. Furthermore, the incidence of some of the moderate variants
of the modal are among surnames that are incorporated into certain
clans. A specific variant of the modal is quite clearly dominant in
the current leadership of Clan Gregor. Quite a few traditionally
Lowland surnames that have historic links are likewise represented by
the modal.

To repeat the question - what historic or prehistoric population
group might best be associated with current results that fall within
6 markers of the 37 marker Scots Modal, if not the descendants of the
Collas or Dal Riada? Where &/or when should we be looking for the
ancestors of this group? Of course, I am not suggesting that any
given candidate population would homogenous, simply that it would be
the population most closely associated with present descendants who
carry the Scots Modal haplotype. So who were they? Hopefully
Ethnoancestry will shed light on this in the not too distant future.
Happy hunting, Pat


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