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From: "Nancy Custer" <>
Subject: RE: [DNA] What exactly do my results mean
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 09:24:13 -0800
In-Reply-To: <000401c63aee$3b2621a0$bec79045@Ken1>


Ken,

I seemed to have missed the discussion of this small group you mention
below. I have a couple of Dorseys (Dorcey & D'Arcy actually) from Tipperary
who are 8,9 at DYS459 and 13,13,15,17 at DYS464. I tried a search of the
archives but go more hits than I can go through this morning. Can you
direct me to a starting point for previous posts? (They are also 13 at
DYS393 and 16 & 17 at DYS458.) I don't think they are in Ysearch but I will
ask them "sign up". I'm sure they both will. Thank you.

Nancy

-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Nordtvedt [mailto:]
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 8:04 AM
To:
Subject: Re: [DNA] What exactly do my results mean

Do you by chance have the unusual 8,9 at DYS459 along with 13 at DYS392? If

so, this haplotype is probably from a small, quasi-private variety of R1b
with Irish ties.

The DYS464 values are the indicators, although your 458 would be a little
high.


----- Original Message -----
From: <>
To: <>
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 8:56 AM
Subject: Re: [DNA] What exactly do my results mean


> In a message dated 02/25/06 3:27:27 PM Pacific Standard Time,
>
> writes:
>
>> I recently got my brother to submit DNA to the Thomas surname project on
>> familytreedna.com. We got the 12 marker test done and it matched with
>> another
>> Thomas that I had no clue existed. My research shows that one immigrant
>> in
>> 1717
>> had only two sons John and Michael who were born before 1720. I can prove

>> my
>>
>> ancestry and the children of Michael but John seems to be lost after
>> 1770.
>> HOWEVER, this gentleman claims descendancy from a William, son of a John
>> and
>>
>> William was born pre 1770 in the same place that John and Michael lived.
>> We got our 37 marker test done and matched on all except # 458 ( my line
>> was
>>
>> 19, he was 18) and our 464 markers were -- Mine 13, 13, 15, 18 and his
>> were
>> 13, 13, 15, 18.
>> My question from those of you who are so much more expert in this -- Is
>> it
>> an
>> excellent, good, fair, poor or nada expectation that his John and my John
>> are
>> the same people since same surname, same time period, same locality and
>> with
>>
>> this DNA results. FYI, the MRCA would be 9 generations from my brother
>> and 8
>>
>> from the other gentleman. Is this enought info to make this
>> determination.
>
> The chances are good-to-excellent that you are researching the same
> general
> line, but you can't pinpoint it to an exact person. When you have to
> approximate birth years, it makes it more difficult to estimate, but it
> seems like there
> might be time for another generation. His William could be the son of a
> John
> who was the son of the John who disappeared.
>
> Other factors might give additional strength to a connection, for
> instance,
> if there are no other Thomas families in the vicinity, or if your
> haplotype is
> uncommon.
>
> Ann Turner
>
>
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