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From: "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] Hg G2* in Suffolk, England.
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 13:03:16 -0700
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From: "ellen Levy" <>
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Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 12:12 PM
Subject: Re: [DNA] Hg G2* in Suffolk, England.

> As for how G moved from its point of origin to the far
> west of Europe, I think there could be multiple modes
> of movements, including the Neolithic agricultural
> movement of peoples out of the Middle East, the Greek
> expansions, Roman occupation of England, and just
> generalized contact/movement between the continent and
> the British Isles over time.


Unless G is thought to be much younger than haplogroup I, why could not the
little G in Europe have come in the paleolithic era along with the
haplogroup I which is supposed to have arrived pre-glacial maximum from
places east and/or southeast? There really is not much G in Europe whose
presence needs explanation is there? Wouldn't R1b and R1a movements into
Europe also have crossed paths with G and brought some along with it? All
those more recent sources suggested sound fine, but what rules out more
ancient sources? Where is the hotspot for G in Europe according to
conventional wisdom? Pulling a standard root G haplotype out of SMGF, I
would say the European zone of highest G runs from Italy up into Germany,
with not much evidence for a significant more Eastern Europe or more Western
Europe presence, not much presence in Scandinavia, and English presence
which is marginally explainable by the AngloSaxon immigrations but perhaps
suggests need for additional sources.

There are some parts of Europe, however, to which SMGF database is close to
blind.

Ken


Ken


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