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From: "Alister John Marsh" <>
Subject: Deep roots of East Anglains
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 09:42:02 +1300
In-Reply-To: <001f01c641c3$1aee70a0$94dd8e56@d6e4z6>


Alan,

The numbers in this study are small, so it will have limited statistical
significance. However, if it were "assumed" that the percentages were
representative of the populations, it implies probably less than 6% of East
Anglian Y-DNA traces to Norway, and probably less than 15% traces to
Frieslanders. If there were more than 6% from Norway, or more than 15% from
Friesland, then one would expect more than 1.3% R1a in the East Anglian
population. Alternatively, 3% from Norway, plus 7% from Friesland, would
produces 1.3% R1a.

One supposes that the Angles, (who settled in East Anglia 1500 years ago),
coming from a homeland closer geographically to Norway than Friesland, might
have had a higher R1a component than Frieslanders. So do we take it from
these results that the very low R1a content of the East Anglian population
implies perhaps a fairly large chunk of the population traces to Icenei, or
some variety of early Native Britons? One supposes that Norway or Danish
Vikings, Angles, Saxons, Frieslanders, and Normans would all have had much
more than 1.3% R1a on average. Finding 1.3% R1a in 79 East Anglians,
equates to finding 1 R1a person in 79 persons tested, which is a rather low
rate.

My "guess" would be from the figures below, that it could not be discounted
that 50% or more of the East Anglian population trace to Native Britons.....
if the figures were uniformly representative of the various populations.

I guess an explanation could be that the addition of R1a to say Friesland or
Angle populations was by Vikings subsequent to the Anglo-Saxon migrations to
East Anglia 1500 years ago.

John.

-----Original Message-----
From: Exec [mailto:]
Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 9:43 PM
To:
Subject: [DNA] Re: DNA Data for The Netherlands

Weale (Michael E.), and others, published data on Friesland (and elsewhere)
in 2002.

In a sample of 94 Frieslanders they found:
(i) 55.3% R1b;
(ii) 34.0% I;
(iii) 7.4% R1a.

Amongst a sample of 83 Norwegians they found:
(i) 26.5% R1b;
(ii) 44.6% I;
(iii) 21.7% R1a.

Amongst a sample of 79 East Anglians (England) they found:
(i) 57.0% R1b
(ii) 37.9% I
(iii) 1.3% R1a

Alan Foster,
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----- Original Message -----
From: <>
To: <>
Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 12:54 AM
Subject: DNA Data for The Netherlands


> Ken or others,
>
> I know that there probably isn't much data for the Netherlands, but I'm
> curious with what's available what the predominant haplogroup might be.
Sorry if
> this has already been discussed previously. Thanks.
>
> ______________________________


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