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From: "South" <>
Subject: RE: [DNA] an unexpected haplogroup result
Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2006 19:01:32 +1000
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I believe J-folk were Hunter Gatherers before they became farmers.

Grant South

-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Felix [mailto:]
Sent: Saturday, 1 April 2006 5:53 PM
Subject: Re: [DNA] an unexpected haplogroup result

this would be more of a characteristic of a hunter gatherer. Farmers
tended to stay put.

Jobling has a map of "the distributions of the earliest archaeological
sites in Europe and the Middle East showing evidence of agriculture" (from
his book Human Evolutionary Genetics). "The oldest sites are in the Fertile
Cresent 10000 YA. Sites become consistently younger toward toward the
northwest of europe with agricultural practices arriving at the Baltic and
the British Isles between 5500 and 4200 YA".

The type of exploration your describing came later with the Egyptian,
Greek and Roman civilizations.

Mexico DNA Project Admin.

Then the Neolithic was devoid of pioneers who moved on simply because the
next hill was there? How do we know this? What are the archaeological signs?


-------------- Original message from Gary Felix : --------------

> The Neolithic had domesticated wheat, barley, lentil, chickpea, large
> seeded grasses, Sheep, Goats, Cows, Pigs and Horses. These resources
> were unknown in the rest of the world. This was the breadbasket of the
world 8K ybp.
> The Neolithic would have only moved when things got too crowded and
> only to places where they could maintain their lifestyle. It would
> take long term domestication to get their crops to grow in different
> Eventually those that brought these resources to the rest of the world
> would be the conquerors.
> Gary
> Mexico DNA Project Admin.

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