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From: "Lowe DNA" <>
Subject: RE: [DNA] Missing Links
Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2006 14:09:53 -0500
In-Reply-To: <000101c65638$df745be0$4001a8c0@BigMem2>


John..

Can you explain derived and ancestral in these
contexts.....?

Bill

-----Original Message-----
From: John McEwan [mailto:]
Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 4:36 AM
To:
Subject: RE: [DNA] Missing Links


Dear Gary and Ken

Based on comments that Jim Wilson provided to me on 13th March 2006.

S2 has been shown to be ancestral in G (n=1), H (n=1) and K (aka R1b
n=1) and derived in I (n=many) and J (n=2).

Cheers

John McEwan
-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Felix [mailto:]
Sent: Sunday, 2 April 2006 8:50 p.m.
To:
Subject: Re: [DNA] Missing Links

Ken,
I received this from EA several weeks ago.

"Based on our SNP testing we have determined the following results
relating to your order:

S2 derived (positive)

S2 is a new SNP which unites haplogroups I and J to the exclusion of
haplogroup G, and is therefore phylogenetically equivalent to S22. It
has not yet been tested in haplogroup H but this will be done soon. You
have been given this test free as part of Ethnoancestry's ongoing SNP
development program."

I realize this is not what you are looking for but I wonder if EA has
ever excluded H.


Gary
Mexico DNA Project Admin.
I1c

Ken Nordtvedt <> wrote:
The SNP S22 which establishes the "missing link" population of
IJx(I,J) is one such new tool. Certainly southeast Europe and the
Mideast ought to be scoured for examples of IJ haplotypes. It is even
worthwhile hunting for some IJx(I,J) haplotypes in our most-used
databases --- Ysearch and SMGF --- but due to their biases toward NW
Europe, dedicated searches in the SE of Europe and Mideast probably have
more promise of discovery. Actually we don't even know what an IJx(I,J)
extended haplotype looks like, or whether they still exist, or if exist
in what percentage and where?



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