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From: "Dave DeHart" <>
Subject: RE: [DNA] R1b SNP page updated
Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 10:42:37 -0700
In-Reply-To: <000201c656fe$4ab314d0$4001a8c0@BigMem2>


Thank you John for your prompt response. In the past few weeks I have found
passenger listings in the late 1700's and early 1800's, with DeHart's who
indicated their origins as Ireland. The name "De Hart" has been said to come
from a Frenchman (pre-surname era) who left France following a political
uprising and entered Holland. All of the early DeHart immigrants who came to
New Amsterdam (Brooklyn and later New Jersey) carried Dutch names (Aertson,
Symons, etc.) Another DeHart came from France in the earl 1800's and
settled in New Orleans. My twenty years of genealogical research of my
line, came to a screeching halt with the 1790 US census; wherein George W.
DeHart said he was born 1768 in Ireland. In a later census he indicated his
father was likewise born in Ireland and his mother in Germany.

DeHart-de Hart-Dehart has a decidedly Norman ring to it. I think you may
have hit on something. Thanks again.
Dave DeHart


-----Original Message-----
From: John McEwan [mailto:]
Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 2:09 AM
To:
Subject: RE: [DNA] R1b SNP page updated

Dear Dave

Based on results to date (brief STR profile and limited SNPs) I have not
been able to classify you.

You are listed as R1b1c (=M269+). You asked about generic R1b (=M343+).
Most entries in genealogical databases that are M343+ are also M269+

If you are interested in SNPs and deep ancestry yes there is another
deep R1b clade test you can take. It is Ethnoancestry's the works
package. You can do a similar test through FTDNA at a cheaper cost but
S21 and S28 the two most interesting SNPs are not available from FTDNA.
I would wait until you had your 37 marker STR profile first. However, if
you are truly interested by all means go ahead and get tested.

DeHart is an interesting Irish name suggestive of Norman ancestry?

Cheers

John McEwan

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave DeHart [mailto:]
Sent: Monday, 3 April 2006 5:40 a.m.
To:
Subject: RE: [DNA] R1b SNP page updated

John: My YSearch ID is RQPGK and I am included in your R1B list as
R1b1c* as
a result of FTDNA Haplogroup test. Is this a "generic" R1b group? Are
there
other tests that I could take to further define a subclade? I am waiting
for
my 37 Y marker test, due May 10.
Thanks,
Dave DeHart

-----Original Message-----
From: John McEwan [mailto:]
Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 1:13 AM
To:
Subject: [DNA] R1b SNP page updated

Dear List

The R1b SNP page has been updated.

www.geocities.com/mcewanjc/s21.htm

What is new?
* Now have 142 SNP entries, 86 are defined reasonably comprehensively.
* 9 updates and 2 new entries
* one of these new entries Denny RS4EF is a P25-, M269+ discussed
earlier on the list. A detailed analysis comparing his result with the
other Francis 2MHA9 the other P25-, M269+ shows 12 mismatches on 31
common markers. This strongly suggests but does not prove that the P25+
to P25- mutation has occurred separately. If Bill Denny was to S21- it
would however be almost conclusive proof. I understand Bill is getting
an extended haplotype first and then proceeding on to a SNP test.

Again if anybody has new results or noted any errors please contact me.

Cheers

John McEwan


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